Fresh Rebuild-PRO TECHS-Break-In Question/Oil Prime?
Okay guys so I have a B16a I just rebuilt.
Stock everything.
is there any tuning I need to do after I get it started?
I dont have any way to alter the ecu settings. cam gears are stock so I cant change them. only timing.
or I could bridge the diag plug and go into closed loop but I dont really see why unless the a/f ratio automatically goes to 14.7:1 in closed loop. any ideas?
do I need to do anything else but time it?
and
how can I prime the oil pump before I try and start it? its got alot of assembly lube on everything, could i just crank by hand it till it gets pressure? or does it need a certain rpm to get adequate pressure built up anyway..
any ideas would be appreciated!
Stock everything.
is there any tuning I need to do after I get it started?
I dont have any way to alter the ecu settings. cam gears are stock so I cant change them. only timing.
or I could bridge the diag plug and go into closed loop but I dont really see why unless the a/f ratio automatically goes to 14.7:1 in closed loop. any ideas?
do I need to do anything else but time it?
and
how can I prime the oil pump before I try and start it? its got alot of assembly lube on everything, could i just crank by hand it till it gets pressure? or does it need a certain rpm to get adequate pressure built up anyway..
any ideas would be appreciated!
yea, I search all the time. If you dont have an answer then dont post here (post *****). I am asking about a totally stock motor, everything i've found searching applies to turbos setups or they say you must "tune" well what can I tune on a stock motor? That has not been answered in any pervious posts.
Remove the valvecover,spark plugs,and ecu fuse...
Crank until you see oil start to feed the camshafts...
Verfy oil light going off during cranking...
You oil system is primed
keep cranking time to 5-10 second durations and have a battery charger hooked up. This is how I do it...
Crank until you see oil start to feed the camshafts...
Verfy oil light going off during cranking...
You oil system is primed
keep cranking time to 5-10 second durations and have a battery charger hooked up. This is how I do it...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PyroProblem »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Remove the valvecover,spark plugs,and ecu fuse...
Crank until you see oil start to feed the camshafts...
Verfy oil light going off during cranking...
You oil system is primed
keep cranking time to 5-10 second durations and have a battery charger hooked up. This is how I do it...</TD></TR></TABLE> Scary, the other one that does it that way. And put the oil in with the valve cover off, make sure all the valves and springs have oil.
Crank until you see oil start to feed the camshafts...
Verfy oil light going off during cranking...
You oil system is primed
keep cranking time to 5-10 second durations and have a battery charger hooked up. This is how I do it...</TD></TR></TABLE> Scary, the other one that does it that way. And put the oil in with the valve cover off, make sure all the valves and springs have oil.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davken1102 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea, I search all the time. If you dont have an answer then dont post here (post *****). I am asking about a totally stock motor, everything i've found searching applies to turbos setups or they say you must "tune" well what can I tune on a stock motor? That has not been answered in any pervious posts.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's funny, you talk ish cause I posted a link to a thread that doesn't apply to FI builds and gives you answers to your questions. You are baddass
That's funny, you talk ish cause I posted a link to a thread that doesn't apply to FI builds and gives you answers to your questions. You are baddass
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's funny, you talk ish cause I posted a link to a thread that doesn't apply to FI builds and gives you answers to your questions. You are baddass
</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually I was talking to the first person that replied with no link to the post he was refering to and I wasn't trying talk ****, I can if you wanna go there.. BUT I search this site constantly and hardly ever post questions because usually I can find the info I need by searching. so when I do ask a question I dont appreciate being told to go search like a noob. if you dont want to answer; then dont. I have read tons of breakin procedures so far but I obviously wanted YOUR advice.
And I want to know for my particular setup, since I haven't seen a break in procedure for a motor that doesn't have adj. cam gears/tuneable ecu; or for a totally stock motor for that matter. anyways I appreciate the link!
sorry you took my other post the wrong way.
some people on h-t are so easily offended and defensive in my experences from reading other threads over the years..
ANYWAYS--Other Questions
Are you sure that cranking the motor over without any oil already in the pump is a good idea? I was thinking that I could remove the plug(same place you can tap into for an oil pressure gauge) on the top of the oil pump and pump some oil directly into the pump, just to get something in the pump to get the oil moving. since there would only be air in the pump at first would that even be able to pull enough vaccum to pull the oil up into the pump to get it started?
what is tuneable on a stock motor? (besides timing)
is there a way to adjust the A/F ratio on a stock motor?
I have read it would be wise to install a wideband o2 sensor to check A/F ratio.. would that work with the stock ecu as well or would that apply only to checking the a/f ratio and tuning the motor (w/ tuneable ecu obviously) then use a standard narrow band with the ecu?
oil to use? (one with zinc)
any suggestions at all for breaking it in? (from your experiences)
would be appreciated!
Modified by davken1102 at 12:26 AM 9/8/2008
That's funny, you talk ish cause I posted a link to a thread that doesn't apply to FI builds and gives you answers to your questions. You are baddass
</TD></TR></TABLE>actually I was talking to the first person that replied with no link to the post he was refering to and I wasn't trying talk ****, I can if you wanna go there.. BUT I search this site constantly and hardly ever post questions because usually I can find the info I need by searching. so when I do ask a question I dont appreciate being told to go search like a noob. if you dont want to answer; then dont. I have read tons of breakin procedures so far but I obviously wanted YOUR advice.
And I want to know for my particular setup, since I haven't seen a break in procedure for a motor that doesn't have adj. cam gears/tuneable ecu; or for a totally stock motor for that matter. anyways I appreciate the link!
sorry you took my other post the wrong way.
some people on h-t are so easily offended and defensive in my experences from reading other threads over the years..ANYWAYS--Other Questions
Are you sure that cranking the motor over without any oil already in the pump is a good idea? I was thinking that I could remove the plug(same place you can tap into for an oil pressure gauge) on the top of the oil pump and pump some oil directly into the pump, just to get something in the pump to get the oil moving. since there would only be air in the pump at first would that even be able to pull enough vaccum to pull the oil up into the pump to get it started?
what is tuneable on a stock motor? (besides timing)
is there a way to adjust the A/F ratio on a stock motor?
I have read it would be wise to install a wideband o2 sensor to check A/F ratio.. would that work with the stock ecu as well or would that apply only to checking the a/f ratio and tuning the motor (w/ tuneable ecu obviously) then use a standard narrow band with the ecu?
oil to use? (one with zinc)
any suggestions at all for breaking it in? (from your experiences)
would be appreciated!
Modified by davken1102 at 12:26 AM 9/8/2008
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