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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Just launched the redesigned site, with a few more articles. One that could benefit this forum can be found at http://www.cccylinderheads.com/ Click on "tech" then on "85x89 Build". It is too much to post here, or to directly link because it is a frames deal.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 06:14 PM
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tech page
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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nice tech section CC i have a few questions if u dont mind answering

- u said that u were shooting for the 4 outer main to have about 0.0017 - 0.0018 " and the middle to have 0.0019' . What do u usually shoot for , for the rods ?

- what viscosity is the Joe Gibbs XP3 oil that ur using ?

- for your tranny , have you ever tried the GM synchromesh friction modified ? I ve had pretty good experiences with them . The redline MTL on the other hand , felt very notchy when it got hot .. maybe thats jus me ..

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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Rods were at .0020 and .0021

10w-30

Tried the GM stuff. Like the MTL better.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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Added to my favorites. Mind if i add to my sig?
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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Not at all.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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do well does your head suck?
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do well does your head suck?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have had a few beers tonight but no matter how many times I read this it says the same thing and is not making sence to me lol
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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The new site was very cool until the damn end. No results.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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10 hours of making firehouse subs &gt; me
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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http://www.cccylinderheads.com/vp/2.html

works directly too
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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I know, I could link like that too but it looks better in frames.

The motor will be on the dyno soon enough, then I will update the section.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do well does your head suck?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 02:44 AM
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time worth spending! nicely put!

i didn't see the dyno result though, LOL
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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Yea, I would update it but theres nothing to update yet. As soon as it hits the dyno, I will update.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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If you are using ARP head studs, how come you do not follow there instrustions after the first warm-up?
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are using ARP head studs, how come you do not follow there instrustions after the first warm-up?</TD></TR></TABLE>

DOH! You caught me. I usually dont retighten them after the first heat cycle, I usually do it after the dyno. This is not what ARP recommends, but is better than never doing it at all.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Most never do that or re-adjust vales. It is a Honda, get it running and no maintance.Well maybe an oil change. I do a longer break-in, but I am an old Chevy/Ford guy. LOL I am getting the take it to the dyno now thing. If you you buy a chipped ECU for your specs, they do not know crap. If you get a AEM, Hondata S300, Motec, DTA, GEM, the owner does not know crap. With that I agree, take it somewhere, that someone knows something. It is starting to make some logic. Please go somewhere that someone knows what a timing lite is. I got it. took awhile, but I got it.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Damn, that was hard to read Don.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Phil M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn, that was hard to read Don. </TD></TR></TABLE> True, but I now understand, take it to a tuner before you FACK it up. That makes a logical argument. Never thought about it that way. Most of my customers actually know how a car/engine works.Setting ign. timing is not a 2 day internet search, I forget that sometimes.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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So then are you for beating on the engine almost immediately or slowly increasing rpm as you put on some miles. I iz confuzed now
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 07:28 PM
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Very good read. great information. I whole harted agree with the "get it to a tuner" mentality. I can build an engine and swap one, to every thing in-between but when it comes to tuning them I'm down right retarded. I know better then to try it my self and after getting it fired up and idle like you did for the first time. Its good night and a trailor ride till it get's to the tuner.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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nice tech article CC, hopefully this would answer some questions that people had
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all-mtr-teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So then are you for beating on the engine almost immediately or slowly increasing rpm as you put on some miles. I iz confuzed now </TD></TR></TABLE>

I heat cycle it once like I mentioed in the article. Once it is on the dyno, he gets the A/F for the idle and part throttle stuff right, and then does subsequent full throttle pulls, working up to the final redline.
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