runing a turbo car without a thermostat???

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Old Sep 6, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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ok ive been having problems with my car overheating and i changed thermo headgasket and wired my fan to be on at all times...well ive came to the conclusion that i got a vad thermostat and until i can get to honda to get another one i just took the old one out and not runing it bc this is my DD...is that bad?? if so why?? i have a b16 turbo hatch but it still gets up to normal operating temp and runs fine...
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 04:54 AM
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if it'll get up to operating temp quickly, and stay there, its not SO terrible, but you have another problem with your cooling if thats the case (inadequate radiator, or blocked up radiator, so something)

it needs to get to operating temp, thats the job of the thermostat...if it seems solidly in the 180 degree-range (i'd get an aftermarket temp gauge, stockers SUCK for accuracy), you can probably just drive it with no issues, really.

i highly doubt, that, without a thermostat, it is staying at a nice, regulated, and EVEN temp. though...that isnt wonderful.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 05:43 AM
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If you've data-logged the temps getting too high (220+), give it a shot. If you see lower temps, it may have been the TS. Otherwise its just a bad cooling system. In most cases, the engine bay is too hot, the rad is getting too much radiant heat, or the rad&fan you're using are crap.

BTW if you plan on making it long-term (or a good simulation of stock), use a large washer. Its how my friend used to help his cooling issues on his dirt-track Pontiac v8.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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large washer=great idea!
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 09:53 AM
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What I first thought of was getting a lower temp aftermarket thermostat and perhaps drilling holes in it to let some coolant flow while it's still closed.
Oh I like the washer idea too.
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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what exactly do u mean by getting a larger washer??? also it does get up to operating temp fine and stays there...i mean with it being turboed it generates heat like crazy...thanks for the help guys
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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The larger washer thing is just half assed....your cooling system is inadequate if your car overheats with a properly functioning thermostat.
(if your cooling system cannot maintain a temp differential between the motor and radiator, the radiator system is inadequate, or the thermostat is not functioning properly).

You should always run a thermostat. An engine is built with temperature in mind when operating clearances are concerned. The temp should always be constant to maintain those clearances, piston to wall clearance specifically. That's why you don't beat on a cold motor, esp if you're boosted and live where it gets 20 below..
The pistons will expand vs the sleeves until they are an interference fit, causing severe engine damage..
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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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I remove the center of the t-stat. Always worked well for me.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:00 AM
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what u mean u removed the center of the thermo??? and how exactly do u do that??
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:41 AM
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Fix the overheating problem, don't half *** it by removing something that is there to do a job. There are tons of people with no overheating problems, yours shouldn't be any different. Removing the thermostat just means your car will take 3x as long to warm up which means you'll have more engine wear in that time.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:16 AM
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i deff dont plan on keeping the thermo out im getting a new one this weekend i wanted to just make sure it would be ok to drive till i do
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