AP1 owners. What to look for when buying an S2K, and your experience?
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AP1 owners. What to look for when buying an S2K, and your experience?
Yeah. Whats up.
Its time for me to decide on another car and I think I'm going with the AP1 S2K. I am really AGAINST financing, because the thought of not owning your car sucks, and I have done fine owning stuff like my "old" Celica GTS 6 speed, straight out owning, no car-notes.
But UNFORTUNATELY, a whole bunch of bull happened last year and life decided to **** on me (Thanks God!!!
). I have bought an interim POS car that was supposed to last only DAYS, but it has turned into months.
So, I decided I will go ahead and put a [freak]ing down payment on a silver or black 2.0 S2K, and be a bitch and let the bank own my car for couple years. I will start driving some this weekend.
A black or silver 2 liter S2K with red interior is the ONLY car I'd finance. So, owners, now that these things have a few years on them, lets get your stories of ownership, and maybe some areas of attention that you might know....like CRX A/C controls breaking, just common **** about them.
And I only want knowledge about the AP1.
Its time for me to decide on another car and I think I'm going with the AP1 S2K. I am really AGAINST financing, because the thought of not owning your car sucks, and I have done fine owning stuff like my "old" Celica GTS 6 speed, straight out owning, no car-notes.
But UNFORTUNATELY, a whole bunch of bull happened last year and life decided to **** on me (Thanks God!!!
). I have bought an interim POS car that was supposed to last only DAYS, but it has turned into months. So, I decided I will go ahead and put a [freak]ing down payment on a silver or black 2.0 S2K, and be a bitch and let the bank own my car for couple years. I will start driving some this weekend.
A black or silver 2 liter S2K with red interior is the ONLY car I'd finance. So, owners, now that these things have a few years on them, lets get your stories of ownership, and maybe some areas of attention that you might know....like CRX A/C controls breaking, just common **** about them.
And I only want knowledge about the AP1.
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Re: AP1 owners. What to look for when buying an S2K, and your experience? (Rude Awakening)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rude Awakening »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah. Whats up.
So, I decided I will go ahead and put a [freak]ing down payment on a silver or black 2.0 S2K, and be a bitch and let the bank own my car for couple years. I will start driving some this weekend.
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So you are saying that we're all bitches for making payments on our cars???
not a good way to ask for help amigo
anyways just the usual **** plus the fact that is a convetible. so look at the convertible for wear marks and cuts. the rear plastic windows turns yellow and crack and besides that just normal wear/tear ****.
So, I decided I will go ahead and put a [freak]ing down payment on a silver or black 2.0 S2K, and be a bitch and let the bank own my car for couple years. I will start driving some this weekend.
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So you are saying that we're all bitches for making payments on our cars???
not a good way to ask for help amigo
anyways just the usual **** plus the fact that is a convetible. so look at the convertible for wear marks and cuts. the rear plastic windows turns yellow and crack and besides that just normal wear/tear ****.
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Re: AP1 owners. What to look for when buying an S2K, and your experience? (joey1320)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by joey1320 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
anyways just the usual **** plus the fact that is a convetible. so look at the convertible for wear marks and cuts. the rear plastic windows turns yellow and crack and besides that just normal wear/tear ****. </TD></TR></TABLE>
But what is the "usual **** for S2K's?" Like does it have a defect like DSM crankwalk, or H22A oil burning?
anyways just the usual **** plus the fact that is a convetible. so look at the convertible for wear marks and cuts. the rear plastic windows turns yellow and crack and besides that just normal wear/tear ****. </TD></TR></TABLE>
But what is the "usual **** for S2K's?" Like does it have a defect like DSM crankwalk, or H22A oil burning?
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Re: AP1 owners. What to look for when buying an S2K, and your experience? (Rude Awakening)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rude Awakening »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But what is the "usual **** for S2K's?" Like does it have a defect like DSM crankwalk, or H22A oil burning?
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the biggest problem you have is the incapable connection between the seat to the steering wheel. most of the younger buyer wrap it around tree, hop over curb and spins out on street the first couple month of ownership.
ap1 generally have a less forgiving suspension compare to ap2, top are known to be prematurely worn/tear, diff are weak if the previos owner live their life 1320 ft a time, the auto down switch for ap1 is faulty, TCT on high mileage s2k are known for making noise, starter goes out and start to stick alot early than typical honda, side of the seat are known for breaking down if you are high BMI or a micky dee lover, alot of noob overrev and bent valve driving the close ratio gearbox, oil jet bolt, axle nut coming loose, tail light fading, that's about all
But what is the "usual **** for S2K's?" Like does it have a defect like DSM crankwalk, or H22A oil burning?
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the biggest problem you have is the incapable connection between the seat to the steering wheel. most of the younger buyer wrap it around tree, hop over curb and spins out on street the first couple month of ownership.
ap1 generally have a less forgiving suspension compare to ap2, top are known to be prematurely worn/tear, diff are weak if the previos owner live their life 1320 ft a time, the auto down switch for ap1 is faulty, TCT on high mileage s2k are known for making noise, starter goes out and start to stick alot early than typical honda, side of the seat are known for breaking down if you are high BMI or a micky dee lover, alot of noob overrev and bent valve driving the close ratio gearbox, oil jet bolt, axle nut coming loose, tail light fading, that's about all
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Re: AP1 owners. What to look for when buying an S2K, and your experience? (Rude Awakening)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rude Awakening »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
But what is the "usual **** for S2K's?" Like does it have a defect like DSM crankwalk, or H22A oil burning?
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no just usual tear/wear.
Modified by joey1320 at 3:44 PM 5/23/2008
But what is the "usual **** for S2K's?" Like does it have a defect like DSM crankwalk, or H22A oil burning?
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no just usual tear/wear.
Modified by joey1320 at 3:44 PM 5/23/2008
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Re: AP1 owners. What to look for when buying an S2K, and your experience? (Rude Awakening)
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Like does it have a defect like DSM crankwalk,
</TD></TR></TABLE> hahah DSMs
Like does it have a defect like DSM crankwalk,
</TD></TR></TABLE> hahah DSMs
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i wouldnt say that, but i would say for him to learn about the car before purchasing or let alone driving one. the search feature is your friend, along with s2ki.com
i wouldnt say that, but i would say for him to learn about the car before purchasing or let alone driving one. the search feature is your friend, along with s2ki.com
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black S2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Judging from your post I dont think your ready for an s2000</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why? He just wants to know.
OP: It may be a 120hp/liter car that pulls .95G stock and stops from 60-0 in 120ft, but it's still just a Honda. This can be good and bad things.
It means that it still has very low torque. The gearing helps mask it, but if you step out of a turbo car or a 350Z or camaro or something, you'll DEF notice.
It means that at the end of the day, it's like driving a civic that handles and moves better. By that I mean that it's 100% solid and reliable. It's still very driveable and gets very good gas mileage. I get around 23-25 around town and 30+ on the highway. Not bad for a 13 sec 240hp car.
You have the option of racing around or just driving relaxed and reaping the benefits of LOTS AND LOTS OF engineering.
The fact that it's a honda means that most of it's issues can be found on the interior and "trim" portions of the car. The chassis, engine, and rest of the drivetrain are sound as long as you operate them within their parameters.
The diff will break if you drag race the car. Easy solution: If you want to drag race, dont buy an S2000. Because then you'll bitch about how much the car sucks and make everyone here angry. I have drag raced the car once or twice for fun....but never expected anything great out of it. It is, however, a 13 sec. car out of the box. So there's your answer. Now you dont have to drag race it and find out how fast it can go.
The clutch makes a buzzing noise on decel. Get over it.
There are other odds and ends that are annoying. The little interior creaks and rattles, the top wearing through the frame eventually, etc. But nothing major. It also lacks "creature comforts".
If you're buying the car for the RIGHT reasons, you will not regret it. If you're one of the people that get into a 350Z and think "too porky, too much **** going on, not enough fun, not enough revs, dont like the character", then the S2000 is YOUR car!! If you get into a 350Z and fall in love with the heated power seats, the seamless torque band, the ability to drag race and drift...then forget the S2000 alltogether.
You will over look the trivial little issues for the billions of good traits if you buy the car for the right reasons.
HPDEs are fun. Autox is fun. You'll find a LOT of success in those areas. Learn how to drive it on a track and you'll never look back.
Once you do learn how to really drive it and you're leaving 350Zs, E46 M3s, Porsche Boxters/cayman Ses, EVOs, etc in the dust...it will put an uneraseable smile on your face and you'll know you've made the right decision. The car's demeanor really hides it's true potential. It's a beast when you know how to drive it.
That's a good and bad thing as well. It will bite you in the *** if you're not careful. When driving fast, it requires your FULL attention. Dont do anything stupid because the car will make it hard to recover. Drive it fast with a firm hand and use some good judgement and the car is a blast to drive....and it's FAST. Screw up and you'll most likely be in a ditch going slow.
Why? He just wants to know.
OP: It may be a 120hp/liter car that pulls .95G stock and stops from 60-0 in 120ft, but it's still just a Honda. This can be good and bad things.
It means that it still has very low torque. The gearing helps mask it, but if you step out of a turbo car or a 350Z or camaro or something, you'll DEF notice.
It means that at the end of the day, it's like driving a civic that handles and moves better. By that I mean that it's 100% solid and reliable. It's still very driveable and gets very good gas mileage. I get around 23-25 around town and 30+ on the highway. Not bad for a 13 sec 240hp car.
You have the option of racing around or just driving relaxed and reaping the benefits of LOTS AND LOTS OF engineering.
The fact that it's a honda means that most of it's issues can be found on the interior and "trim" portions of the car. The chassis, engine, and rest of the drivetrain are sound as long as you operate them within their parameters.
The diff will break if you drag race the car. Easy solution: If you want to drag race, dont buy an S2000. Because then you'll bitch about how much the car sucks and make everyone here angry. I have drag raced the car once or twice for fun....but never expected anything great out of it. It is, however, a 13 sec. car out of the box. So there's your answer. Now you dont have to drag race it and find out how fast it can go.
The clutch makes a buzzing noise on decel. Get over it.
There are other odds and ends that are annoying. The little interior creaks and rattles, the top wearing through the frame eventually, etc. But nothing major. It also lacks "creature comforts".
If you're buying the car for the RIGHT reasons, you will not regret it. If you're one of the people that get into a 350Z and think "too porky, too much **** going on, not enough fun, not enough revs, dont like the character", then the S2000 is YOUR car!! If you get into a 350Z and fall in love with the heated power seats, the seamless torque band, the ability to drag race and drift...then forget the S2000 alltogether.
You will over look the trivial little issues for the billions of good traits if you buy the car for the right reasons.
HPDEs are fun. Autox is fun. You'll find a LOT of success in those areas. Learn how to drive it on a track and you'll never look back.
Once you do learn how to really drive it and you're leaving 350Zs, E46 M3s, Porsche Boxters/cayman Ses, EVOs, etc in the dust...it will put an uneraseable smile on your face and you'll know you've made the right decision. The car's demeanor really hides it's true potential. It's a beast when you know how to drive it.
That's a good and bad thing as well. It will bite you in the *** if you're not careful. When driving fast, it requires your FULL attention. Dont do anything stupid because the car will make it hard to recover. Drive it fast with a firm hand and use some good judgement and the car is a blast to drive....and it's FAST. Screw up and you'll most likely be in a ditch going slow.
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Why? He just wants to know.
OP: It may be a 120hp/liter car that pulls .95G stock and stops from 60-0 in 120ft, but it's still just a Honda. This can be good and bad things.
It means that it still has very low torque. The gearing helps mask it, but if you step out of a turbo car or a 350Z or camaro or something, you'll DEF notice.
It means that at the end of the day, it's like driving a civic that handles and moves better. By that I mean that it's 100% solid and reliable. It's still very driveable and gets very good gas mileage. I get around 23-25 around town and 30+ on the highway. Not bad for a 13 sec 240hp car.
You have the option of racing around or just driving relaxed and reaping the benefits of LOTS AND LOTS OF engineering.
The fact that it's a honda means that most of it's issues can be found on the interior and "trim" portions of the car. The chassis, engine, and rest of the drivetrain are sound as long as you operate them within their parameters.
The diff will break if you drag race the car. Easy solution: If you want to drag race, dont buy an S2000. Because then you'll bitch about how much the car sucks and make everyone here angry. I have drag raced the car once or twice for fun....but never expected anything great out of it. It is, however, a 13 sec. car out of the box. So there's your answer. Now you dont have to drag race it and find out how fast it can go.
The clutch makes a buzzing noise on decel. Get over it.
There are other odds and ends that are annoying. The little interior creaks and rattles, the top wearing through the frame eventually, etc. But nothing major. It also lacks "creature comforts".
If you're buying the car for the RIGHT reasons, you will not regret it. If you're one of the people that get into a 350Z and think "too porky, too much **** going on, not enough fun, not enough revs, dont like the character", then the S2000 is YOUR car!! If you get into a 350Z and fall in love with the heated power seats, the seamless torque band, the ability to drag race and drift...then forget the S2000 alltogether.
You will over look the trivial little issues for the billions of good traits if you buy the car for the right reasons.
HPDEs are fun. Autox is fun. You'll find a LOT of success in those areas. Learn how to drive it on a track and you'll never look back.
Once you do learn how to really drive it and you're leaving 350Zs, E46 M3s, Porsche Boxters/cayman Ses, EVOs, etc in the dust...it will put an uneraseable smile on your face and you'll know you've made the right decision. The car's demeanor really hides it's true potential. It's a beast when you know how to drive it.
That's a good and bad thing as well. It will bite you in the *** if you're not careful. When driving fast, it requires your FULL attention. Dont do anything stupid because the car will make it hard to recover. Drive it fast with a firm hand and use some good judgement and the car is a blast to drive....and it's FAST. Screw up and you'll most likely be in a ditch going slow.
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Why? He just wants to know.
OP: It may be a 120hp/liter car that pulls .95G stock and stops from 60-0 in 120ft, but it's still just a Honda. This can be good and bad things.
It means that it still has very low torque. The gearing helps mask it, but if you step out of a turbo car or a 350Z or camaro or something, you'll DEF notice.
It means that at the end of the day, it's like driving a civic that handles and moves better. By that I mean that it's 100% solid and reliable. It's still very driveable and gets very good gas mileage. I get around 23-25 around town and 30+ on the highway. Not bad for a 13 sec 240hp car.
You have the option of racing around or just driving relaxed and reaping the benefits of LOTS AND LOTS OF engineering.
The fact that it's a honda means that most of it's issues can be found on the interior and "trim" portions of the car. The chassis, engine, and rest of the drivetrain are sound as long as you operate them within their parameters.
The diff will break if you drag race the car. Easy solution: If you want to drag race, dont buy an S2000. Because then you'll bitch about how much the car sucks and make everyone here angry. I have drag raced the car once or twice for fun....but never expected anything great out of it. It is, however, a 13 sec. car out of the box. So there's your answer. Now you dont have to drag race it and find out how fast it can go.
The clutch makes a buzzing noise on decel. Get over it.
There are other odds and ends that are annoying. The little interior creaks and rattles, the top wearing through the frame eventually, etc. But nothing major. It also lacks "creature comforts".
If you're buying the car for the RIGHT reasons, you will not regret it. If you're one of the people that get into a 350Z and think "too porky, too much **** going on, not enough fun, not enough revs, dont like the character", then the S2000 is YOUR car!! If you get into a 350Z and fall in love with the heated power seats, the seamless torque band, the ability to drag race and drift...then forget the S2000 alltogether.
You will over look the trivial little issues for the billions of good traits if you buy the car for the right reasons.
HPDEs are fun. Autox is fun. You'll find a LOT of success in those areas. Learn how to drive it on a track and you'll never look back.
Once you do learn how to really drive it and you're leaving 350Zs, E46 M3s, Porsche Boxters/cayman Ses, EVOs, etc in the dust...it will put an uneraseable smile on your face and you'll know you've made the right decision. The car's demeanor really hides it's true potential. It's a beast when you know how to drive it.
That's a good and bad thing as well. It will bite you in the *** if you're not careful. When driving fast, it requires your FULL attention. Dont do anything stupid because the car will make it hard to recover. Drive it fast with a firm hand and use some good judgement and the car is a blast to drive....and it's FAST. Screw up and you'll most likely be in a ditch going slow.
</TD></TR></TABLE> true dat
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Re: (Black S2K)
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I dont see why not. I've had an Bottle H22 Integra that ran 12's, among other fast/quick cars. So, an S2K wont be anything above my level. I want to make sure the S2K didnt have any weird **** about it...which I got an answer for here:
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thanks.
I dont see why not. I've had an Bottle H22 Integra that ran 12's, among other fast/quick cars. So, an S2K wont be anything above my level. I want to make sure the S2K didnt have any weird **** about it...which I got an answer for here:
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thanks.
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I dont see why not. I've had an Bottle H22 Integra that ran 12's, among other fast/quick cars. So, an S2K wont be anything above my level. I want to make sure the S2K didnt have any weird **** about it...which I got an answer for here:
thanks.
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i have a boosted accord before i have the s, it was nothing like it.
the old car make tons more tq over the s but damn you will be surprise on your first track day with your s
I dont see why not. I've had an Bottle H22 Integra that ran 12's, among other fast/quick cars. So, an S2K wont be anything above my level. I want to make sure the S2K didnt have any weird **** about it...which I got an answer for here:
thanks.
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i have a boosted accord before i have the s, it was nothing like it.
the old car make tons more tq over the s but damn you will be surprise on your first track day with your s
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Btw, I forgot a few things:
This is nothing weird since it's a 9k RPM engine with oil squirters (and a Honda), but the AP1s do burn a little oil. Mine burns very very little. Maybe 1/2qt. between oil changes or 1 qt at the most (including a track day or 2). Nothing major. Some do have bigger issues. It's all about the previous owner's upkeep. The maintainence schedule is just like a civic or accord...so it's simple, not really much else besides the diff fluid.
If you track the car, obviously the maintainence becomes more frequent.
There is also an issue with the AP1 oil squirters that is resolved by using AP2 bolts or something. Never had an issue with mine so I dont really care. Some people have oil starvation problems at the track. I haven't..so I'll choose to remain ignorant on that issue.
The oil filter must be torqued to honda's spec. You need a special oil filter wrench from honda ..or an auto parts store. On http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com, I belive it's like $8.99. There have been issues with people spinning off filters at the track because they just hand tightened it.
The rear tires MUST be within about 2psi of each other. If not the car will pull in the most hilarous of ways. It's only hilarious when it's not your car it's happening to, though. The car is also very sensitive about alignment.
You WILL chew through rear tires. AP1s have around 6mm total toe. So about 1/8'' per side. Couple that with RWD and the spirited driving you'll want to do...and you'll probably wear out about 2-3 sets of rears before going through 1 set of fronts.
It pays to drive with the roof up on the test drive no matter how much the dealer tries to get you to put the roof down. I found out why my salesman wanted the roof down so badly...but I found out AFTER I drove away with the car.
This is why:
Make sure before you buy the car that the roof doesn't have excessive wind noise. The top strikers wear out. The fix is to buy hard top strikers for $50. If you catch this before you buy the car, you can have the dealer buy the parts.
It's a VERY annoying issue. I almost couldn't carry on a conversation and I didn't even want to drive the car anywhere till I fixed it. There's a DIY fix...but the hard top strikers are more permanent and less ghetto.
Make sure that 2nd gear doesn't grind. AP1s are a little notorious for that issue. The AP2 trans fixed that issue.
The AP2 axles are also better. The AP1's axle cups tend to get pitted and worn out if you lower the car and dont buy axle spacers. Mine are starting to vibrate sometimes.
Other issues will arise after you buy the car. About 99.9% of them are just B.S. little quirks about the car that are an easy fix..or an easy ignore.
This is nothing weird since it's a 9k RPM engine with oil squirters (and a Honda), but the AP1s do burn a little oil. Mine burns very very little. Maybe 1/2qt. between oil changes or 1 qt at the most (including a track day or 2). Nothing major. Some do have bigger issues. It's all about the previous owner's upkeep. The maintainence schedule is just like a civic or accord...so it's simple, not really much else besides the diff fluid.
If you track the car, obviously the maintainence becomes more frequent.
There is also an issue with the AP1 oil squirters that is resolved by using AP2 bolts or something. Never had an issue with mine so I dont really care. Some people have oil starvation problems at the track. I haven't..so I'll choose to remain ignorant on that issue.
The oil filter must be torqued to honda's spec. You need a special oil filter wrench from honda ..or an auto parts store. On http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com, I belive it's like $8.99. There have been issues with people spinning off filters at the track because they just hand tightened it.
The rear tires MUST be within about 2psi of each other. If not the car will pull in the most hilarous of ways. It's only hilarious when it's not your car it's happening to, though. The car is also very sensitive about alignment.
You WILL chew through rear tires. AP1s have around 6mm total toe. So about 1/8'' per side. Couple that with RWD and the spirited driving you'll want to do...and you'll probably wear out about 2-3 sets of rears before going through 1 set of fronts.
It pays to drive with the roof up on the test drive no matter how much the dealer tries to get you to put the roof down. I found out why my salesman wanted the roof down so badly...but I found out AFTER I drove away with the car.
This is why:
Make sure before you buy the car that the roof doesn't have excessive wind noise. The top strikers wear out. The fix is to buy hard top strikers for $50. If you catch this before you buy the car, you can have the dealer buy the parts.
It's a VERY annoying issue. I almost couldn't carry on a conversation and I didn't even want to drive the car anywhere till I fixed it. There's a DIY fix...but the hard top strikers are more permanent and less ghetto.
Make sure that 2nd gear doesn't grind. AP1s are a little notorious for that issue. The AP2 trans fixed that issue.
The AP2 axles are also better. The AP1's axle cups tend to get pitted and worn out if you lower the car and dont buy axle spacers. Mine are starting to vibrate sometimes.
Other issues will arise after you buy the car. About 99.9% of them are just B.S. little quirks about the car that are an easy fix..or an easy ignore.
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I dont see why not. I've had an Bottle H22 Integra that ran 12's, among other fast/quick cars. So, an S2K wont be anything above my level. I want to make sure the S2K didnt have any weird **** about it...which I got an answer for here:
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The problem with that is that the S2000 is not that fast. That wasn't really the purpose of the car. If the purpose of your S2000 purchase is to try to make it straight line fast...just forget the S2000 all together. Trust me. Save yourself the headache.
Once you take it to a HPDE event, you'll forget about running 12s, hopefully. If you dont, you'll know you just made a horrible car buying decision lol.
I dont see why not. I've had an Bottle H22 Integra that ran 12's, among other fast/quick cars. So, an S2K wont be anything above my level. I want to make sure the S2K didnt have any weird **** about it...which I got an answer for here:
thanks.
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The problem with that is that the S2000 is not that fast. That wasn't really the purpose of the car. If the purpose of your S2000 purchase is to try to make it straight line fast...just forget the S2000 all together. Trust me. Save yourself the headache.
Once you take it to a HPDE event, you'll forget about running 12s, hopefully. If you dont, you'll know you just made a horrible car buying decision lol.
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Re: (B serious)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B serious »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The problem with that is that the S2000 is not that fast. That wasn't really the purpose of the car. If the purpose of your S2000 purchase is to try to make it straight line fast...just forget the S2000 all together. Trust me. Save yourself the headache.
Once you take it to a HPDE event, you'll forget about running 12s, hopefully. If you dont, you'll know you just made a horrible car buying decision lol. </TD></TR></TABLE>
VERY NICE info in the next to last post. I'm definitely keeping that in mind.
As to this one, I'm done with the fast cars. Thats Integra was such a bitch to own and maintain that I got rid of it for a STOCK *** EK. It was the luckiest break of that kid's life. I'm over speed. I've witnessed S2K's get shown up by simple GSR hatches, and other cars, so I'm def not getting it for speed. I already know how hard it is to make gains without a turbo(I will never turbo a car that wasnt meant for it- hence my Integra was NA), so its just gonna get lowered, wheels, and a single exhaust. No quarter miles, no track days....at most a few backroad adventures at moderate speeds, and a few nice 1-2-3 gear runs on a on ramp/highway to my work, just to see a little of what it can do. Nothing serious.
thanks for all the insight.
The problem with that is that the S2000 is not that fast. That wasn't really the purpose of the car. If the purpose of your S2000 purchase is to try to make it straight line fast...just forget the S2000 all together. Trust me. Save yourself the headache.
Once you take it to a HPDE event, you'll forget about running 12s, hopefully. If you dont, you'll know you just made a horrible car buying decision lol. </TD></TR></TABLE>
VERY NICE info in the next to last post. I'm definitely keeping that in mind.
As to this one, I'm done with the fast cars. Thats Integra was such a bitch to own and maintain that I got rid of it for a STOCK *** EK. It was the luckiest break of that kid's life. I'm over speed. I've witnessed S2K's get shown up by simple GSR hatches, and other cars, so I'm def not getting it for speed. I already know how hard it is to make gains without a turbo(I will never turbo a car that wasnt meant for it- hence my Integra was NA), so its just gonna get lowered, wheels, and a single exhaust. No quarter miles, no track days....at most a few backroad adventures at moderate speeds, and a few nice 1-2-3 gear runs on a on ramp/highway to my work, just to see a little of what it can do. Nothing serious.
thanks for all the insight.
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Re: (Rude Awakening)
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VERY NICE info in the next to last post. I'm definitely keeping that in mind.
As to this one, I'm done with the fast cars. Thats Integra was such a bitch to own and maintain that I got rid of it for a STOCK *** EK. It was the luckiest break of that kid's life. I'm over speed. I've witnessed S2K's get shown up by simple GSR hatches, and other cars, so I'm def not getting it for speed. I already know how hard it is to make gains without a turbo(I will never turbo a car that wasnt meant for it- hence my Integra was NA), so its just gonna get lowered, wheels, and a single exhaust. No quarter miles, no track days....at most a few backroad adventures at moderate speeds, and a few nice 1-2-3 gear runs on a on ramp/highway to my work, just to see a little of what it can do. Nothing serious.
thanks for all the insight.
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Buzz kill. You gotta do an HPDE event, brotha. You wont regret it. The car will suffer no consequences (unless you REALLY screw up) and you'll have tons of fun. Everyone wins. Plus, it helps you learn the car on the track where it's safe. It's really not a car you want to learn the limits of on the streets. Ending up in the grass at a track is much nicer than ending up in a ditch or underneath a semi.
What state do you live in? If you're around the Madwest, you can do a WMHM event. They have a 2 day going on in July. $250 and it's worth every penny. Gingerman is an awesome and VERY safe track. An NSX spun out last year and the only thing that happened is that it got grassy. Check out http://www.wmhm.org.
There are some pics in my picture thread from the last WMHM. Since the car is too small to have sex in, HPDEs are on top of the list of the most fun things to do with the car. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2304306 Look about halfway down.
It's up to you...but I really can't recommend enough that you do an HPDE. You'll thank me if you do lol.
Either way. Lower it on something quality, clock your bushings when you do (Replacement bushings for this car are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$). Keep your cat on when you get an exhaust. It's the responsible thing to do
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Seriously, though. Do an HPDE.
Modified by B serious at 10:08 PM 5/23/2008
Modified by B serious at 10:08 PM 5/23/2008
VERY NICE info in the next to last post. I'm definitely keeping that in mind.
As to this one, I'm done with the fast cars. Thats Integra was such a bitch to own and maintain that I got rid of it for a STOCK *** EK. It was the luckiest break of that kid's life. I'm over speed. I've witnessed S2K's get shown up by simple GSR hatches, and other cars, so I'm def not getting it for speed. I already know how hard it is to make gains without a turbo(I will never turbo a car that wasnt meant for it- hence my Integra was NA), so its just gonna get lowered, wheels, and a single exhaust. No quarter miles, no track days....at most a few backroad adventures at moderate speeds, and a few nice 1-2-3 gear runs on a on ramp/highway to my work, just to see a little of what it can do. Nothing serious.
thanks for all the insight.
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Buzz kill. You gotta do an HPDE event, brotha. You wont regret it. The car will suffer no consequences (unless you REALLY screw up) and you'll have tons of fun. Everyone wins. Plus, it helps you learn the car on the track where it's safe. It's really not a car you want to learn the limits of on the streets. Ending up in the grass at a track is much nicer than ending up in a ditch or underneath a semi.
What state do you live in? If you're around the Madwest, you can do a WMHM event. They have a 2 day going on in July. $250 and it's worth every penny. Gingerman is an awesome and VERY safe track. An NSX spun out last year and the only thing that happened is that it got grassy. Check out http://www.wmhm.org.
There are some pics in my picture thread from the last WMHM. Since the car is too small to have sex in, HPDEs are on top of the list of the most fun things to do with the car. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2304306 Look about halfway down.
It's up to you...but I really can't recommend enough that you do an HPDE. You'll thank me if you do lol.
Either way. Lower it on something quality, clock your bushings when you do (Replacement bushings for this car are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$). Keep your cat on when you get an exhaust. It's the responsible thing to do
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Seriously, though. Do an HPDE.
Modified by B serious at 10:08 PM 5/23/2008
Modified by B serious at 10:08 PM 5/23/2008
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dont miss shift, do 7k launches, crash in any way, and try not to grind 2nd all the time and youll be ok. the car is a sports car. it isnt comfortable, quiet, or good on gas. but thats not why any of us bought it anyway. 
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Not comfortable? I think it's pretty comfortable. It's not a Lexus...but it's not annoying to drive.
Bad on gas? I disagree completely. The OWNERS are bad on gas. The car is good on gas. The 20/26 MPG rating is BS. The new 18/24 rating is even more BS. If I drive like an A-hole or make a lot of short, cold trips, or move it around in my driveway all the time (another form of a short, cold trip) or sit in traffic, I still get around 21-24 around town. I've gotten 25 around town a few times. I've gotten 30+ on the highway a few times also. There are lots of people that have done 30+ on the highway. I'd say the car's pretty good on gas.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Not comfortable? I think it's pretty comfortable. It's not a Lexus...but it's not annoying to drive.
Bad on gas? I disagree completely. The OWNERS are bad on gas. The car is good on gas. The 20/26 MPG rating is BS. The new 18/24 rating is even more BS. If I drive like an A-hole or make a lot of short, cold trips, or move it around in my driveway all the time (another form of a short, cold trip) or sit in traffic, I still get around 21-24 around town. I've gotten 25 around town a few times. I've gotten 30+ on the highway a few times also. There are lots of people that have done 30+ on the highway. I'd say the car's pretty good on gas.
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Re: (B serious)
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Not comfortable? I think it's pretty comfortable. It's not a Lexus...but it's not annoying to drive.
Bad on gas? I disagree completely. The OWNERS are bad on gas. The car is good on gas. The 20/26 MPG rating is BS. The new 18/24 rating is even more BS. If I drive like an A-hole or make a lot of short, cold trips, or move it around in my driveway all the time (another form of a short, cold trip) or sit in traffic, I still get around 21-24 around town. I've gotten 25 around town a few times. I've gotten 30+ on the highway a few times also. There are lots of people that have done 30+ on the highway. I'd say the car's pretty good on gas. </TD></TR></TABLE> Yeah I can get good MPG when I really want to. I think we are all doing it more now then ever
Not comfortable? I think it's pretty comfortable. It's not a Lexus...but it's not annoying to drive.
Bad on gas? I disagree completely. The OWNERS are bad on gas. The car is good on gas. The 20/26 MPG rating is BS. The new 18/24 rating is even more BS. If I drive like an A-hole or make a lot of short, cold trips, or move it around in my driveway all the time (another form of a short, cold trip) or sit in traffic, I still get around 21-24 around town. I've gotten 25 around town a few times. I've gotten 30+ on the highway a few times also. There are lots of people that have done 30+ on the highway. I'd say the car's pretty good on gas. </TD></TR></TABLE> Yeah I can get good MPG when I really want to. I think we are all doing it more now then ever
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Meh. I drive my S2000 to have fun. Gotta pay to play. If I want to save gas, I ride my bike or combine trips. I also use the gas saving technique known as "driving a civic". Although, the S2000 doesn't get much worse mileage than my Si. I used to have to drive the Si 80-100 miles daily to go back and forth from school...and will have to again starting in late august. People that make more than me whine about having to drive 10-20 miles a day lol.
I try not to bitch about gas. It is what it is. The cost of gas needed to go up in this country. The only way to make people do the right thing is to make doing the wrong thing so damn expensive that they wont be able to do it.
Meh. I drive my S2000 to have fun. Gotta pay to play. If I want to save gas, I ride my bike or combine trips. I also use the gas saving technique known as "driving a civic". Although, the S2000 doesn't get much worse mileage than my Si. I used to have to drive the Si 80-100 miles daily to go back and forth from school...and will have to again starting in late august. People that make more than me whine about having to drive 10-20 miles a day lol.
I try not to bitch about gas. It is what it is. The cost of gas needed to go up in this country. The only way to make people do the right thing is to make doing the wrong thing so damn expensive that they wont be able to do it.
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Re: (B serious)
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