Hello All, first time poster, whats up

Got an 08 Si around December, first Honda, first 6 speed.

I have two minor annoyances with the car and am wondering if maybe I'm just not use to how Honda's sound / drive.

Shifting seems to be a bit less fluid that I would expect from a brand new clutch, seems like I get resistance in all gears once I'm over 3K and some gears I cant even push into without double clutching through nuetral at high rpms. Really pisses me off because thats where all the power is, 6K-8K.

The engine makes a ticking noise when its first started, sounds similair to a sound you would expect from somone with an older car and is a quart low on oil.

It lessesns as the car warms and has been better since the nicer weather has arrived.

Its been doing all of this since its first 1K miles, only at 4K now.

Should I be concerned? The shifting in particular bugs me, I've tried babying the thing and still had an issue getting into third gear. I went as far as even adjusting my seat to ensure I'm going all the way in with the clutch on each shift and not getting the gas invovled at all until I get the gear set.

Any feedback is good feedback, even if its to say 'HI!'

Thanks

-Ron

 

Hey man! Welcome to H-T.

As far as the shifting goes, the Honda/Acura 6 speeds have a reoccuring problem, and it is pretty similar to what you describe. Third gear has been trouble for a lot of people with 06-07 (and some '08) Si's.

Here is a link to a TSB that Honda released detailing repairs to be made to our cars. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2275287

There is a VIN range, and I think you might fall out of it. I say this because I got my '08 Si in November (before you) and mine is a little out of the vin range. But, I ordered my car the way I wanted it and had to wait two months. If yours was just sitting in a dealership, it could be 'older' than mine.

The third gear problem was supposed to be fixed before the cars that fall out of the TSB vin range, but mine still occasionally grinds third.

 

Hello Ron


Changed your oil yet or still on the break in oil from Honda?

The injectors are pretty loud and can sound like valvetrain ticking since they're so close to the head. The fact that your ticking comes and goes based on temp kinda sounds like it might be something else.

Check out this stickied thread at the top of the 06+ forum:3rd gear thread and see if what they describe sounds like the issue your having with shifting.+

Welcome to HT

 

hmm...i thought the clicking was because the k-series motors uses timing chain therefore it's louder than the b's which used belt.

 

Thanks for the responses, I'm going to read through the posted links and see if I cant get to the bottom of this mystery. Glad to hear that I'm not crazy or pariniod, there may be valid issues here

I've changed the oil once, but wasnt in the first 500 miles like I'm told I should have, I waited till around 3K. I've heard there is the risk of metal bits clearing into your oil during the break in, but figured if that was more than hearsay it would have been in the book. and disregarded the warning, now I'm thinking maybe I should have listened.

Thanks for the warm welcome, look forward to talking to you gents a bunch in the future.

-Ron

 

Hello Ron, just want to say : Welcome to this forum.
Nice to meet you

 

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I've changed the oil once, but wasnt in the first 500 miles like I'm told I should have, I waited till around 3K. I've heard there is the risk of metal bits clearing into your oil during the break in, but figured if that was more than hearsay it would have been in the book. and disregarded the warning, now I'm thinking maybe I should have listened.
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It's just hearsay. The break-in oil isn't meant to be changed until 5k miles, but you did fine.

 

Good LUCK!!!

I have an 07 SI that, like yours, has these same or similar issues. I wonder, do you have to double clutch in order to prevent grinding only when it fails to "shift" into 2nd or 3rd? If so, you may have two different issues as I have discovered. As a matter of fact, I plan on using a few of the posts from H-T to help persuade to my Honda dealership that I'm not the only one who experiences b-s tranny hickups.

My experience:
The third-gear issue took place more often in the morning or when the engine was cool. After trying to duplicate the issue three previous times I finally had to leave the car overnight to allow Sanford Honda to test it for themselves for a day (4 attempts over 8 months). They solved it! But only after after duplicating 3rd "popping out" and ALSO "noticing" that my car (purchased in May07) also fell under a January07 TSB for replacing the manual transmission fluid. I was told by one service tech that the fluid was contaminated. Funny enough, the 3rd gear issue pretty much stopped. Happens every now and then on a cool engine...not what it was like during the first 6k miles. Advice: ask them to change the MT fluid so you don't void your warranty by putting in anything other than their stuff.

The second-gear issue is completely different. It partially engages into gear despite the clutch being completely depressed. Only happens when in the 6-8k rev range. Grinds like hell because you never expect it. Had the Regional Service Rep tell me that "the car was not designed to be driven like that." WTF!!! If this is a defect I have to live with, why can't it be in 6th....where it's not smack in the middle of all the happy-gears?!
Advice: keep taking in your car to get looked at by the dealership to document the issue.

Keep me posted on your progress with getting results. I keep looking for the fantasy post that will tell me exactly how to fix this problem.

-C

 

the ticking is from the valve train. when you turn off your car oil isnt continously circulating while its off.. so you will hear that a little bit i guess? until all the oil circulates through the whole car.

 

really worry about it . i'm thinking in getting a 2008 coupe si and thanks God to know abouth this.. my friends tells me to get a toyota xrs.. i do not know about what to choose...

 

what are the last 4 numbers of your vin??
look at the tsb and make sure ur not in the range. i think u are since u got it back in december

 

I sorta had this problem when I first got my FG2 in the beginning of 2007. I'm in SoCal, and in the morning the transmission was not too smooth, so I could imagine it'd be worse in places of more extreme cold.

At this time, there wasn't a TSB yet although some were lucky enough to convince their dealership to change their transmission fluid to the newer fluid that was supposed to remedy the situation. Some said that it fixed the problem, others said that it helped a little, but the problem was still there.

I don't like going to the dealership closest to me, let alone arguing with some useless tech, so I chose to just eat the cost of new transmission fluid. I drained out the old, and put in GM Syncromesh. The first test drive through the gears, and I was very satisfied. A year and a half later, and I'm still smoothly shifting into all six gears.