Help me price out my 57 trim build
Im looking for the cheapest or smartest way to build my 57 trim eg. I want about 450whp on race gas reliably. I dont want to cheap out and buy shitty parts but i want the build to be simple and i want to know the best way of going about things and what parts to buy.
My idea is...
-B16 motor/lsd trans with stock sleeves and pistons/rods with stock head/IM/TB...
What I want to know about here is what would be the best way to go about getting the motor/trans that I want to have built. Right now I just have a stock 92' EG, I was going to buy a B16 crate motor complete from a website and then build it but they want like 2000.00 + shipping. Would there be a better way of going about this???
-Some 57 trim turbo kit? I was thinking SLS but its 2900.00 if I get the 44mm WG (i know thats not expensive for a nice turbo kit, but could i put the same thing together cheaper if I bought their manifold/the turbo/misc stuff and had someone local fab up the rest??)
-What clutch??? and will my stock lsd hold my power goals???
-New OEM Honda oil pump, water pump, headgasket, timing belt, tensioner, and tensioner spring.
-Fuel = Injectors and Walbro pump
-Hondata s300 for tuning
-1/2 size raditor?? Brand??
-Hasport solid mounts
-Gauges = Wideband/Boost
-Traction bars?? Brand?? Worth it??
-MT 235/60/15... Hoping to hook on da street
Am I missing anything?
Thanks in advance,
Doug P.
My idea is...
-B16 motor/lsd trans with stock sleeves and pistons/rods with stock head/IM/TB...
What I want to know about here is what would be the best way to go about getting the motor/trans that I want to have built. Right now I just have a stock 92' EG, I was going to buy a B16 crate motor complete from a website and then build it but they want like 2000.00 + shipping. Would there be a better way of going about this???
-Some 57 trim turbo kit? I was thinking SLS but its 2900.00 if I get the 44mm WG (i know thats not expensive for a nice turbo kit, but could i put the same thing together cheaper if I bought their manifold/the turbo/misc stuff and had someone local fab up the rest??)
-What clutch??? and will my stock lsd hold my power goals???
-New OEM Honda oil pump, water pump, headgasket, timing belt, tensioner, and tensioner spring.
-Fuel = Injectors and Walbro pump
-Hondata s300 for tuning
-1/2 size raditor?? Brand??
-Hasport solid mounts
-Gauges = Wideband/Boost
-Traction bars?? Brand?? Worth it??
-MT 235/60/15... Hoping to hook on da street
Am I missing anything?
Thanks in advance,
Doug P.
The SLS turbo kit is a great setup for the street/strip. If you buy it, they'll have a fuel setup ready for it as well. I would imagine that you should run either 720 or 880cc injectors and a Walbro fuel pump.
The SLS EG hatch ran the same setup, made 452whp and ran a 10.8 in the 1/4 mile on a simple piston/rod combo.
The SLS EG hatch ran the same setup, made 452whp and ran a 10.8 in the 1/4 mile on a simple piston/rod combo.
Im not worried about 2k im expecting to spend 10k on my motor/turbo setup. I was just asking, Would you buy a complete b16 then rip it apart to build it? or try to find a b16 block to build then get a head, IM/TB, Harness, and the other misc stuff???
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I love how he's worried about 2K for the money to make this power AND reliable.. Hheheh..boy oh boy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly. lol. you need the money if you want the power.
and damn i always see schister, as well as shodan, recommending the silver surfer setup / sls. turbo combo must be great
definitely 880cc injectors as well as a 255 walbro fuel pump. start there with fuel. and definitely a fuel pressure regulator.
i think an exedy stage 2 clutch / fidanza 7lb flywheel would be an okay combo.
but as for 452whp, idk about that on stock internals. you should definitely get low comp pistons, maybe a 9:1 or a 9.2:1 by je or cp. and rods, go with eagle.
also, i would try to upgrade the throttle body to at least a 65mm. the stock size is 62mm (i believe) and i'm pretty sure you'd be able to get another 6-8 whp on just upgrading the tb.
just keep in mind, cheap and fast is not reliable.
good luck boss.
I love how he's worried about 2K for the money to make this power AND reliable.. Hheheh..boy oh boy.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly. lol. you need the money if you want the power.
and damn i always see schister, as well as shodan, recommending the silver surfer setup / sls. turbo combo must be great
definitely 880cc injectors as well as a 255 walbro fuel pump. start there with fuel. and definitely a fuel pressure regulator.
i think an exedy stage 2 clutch / fidanza 7lb flywheel would be an okay combo.
but as for 452whp, idk about that on stock internals. you should definitely get low comp pistons, maybe a 9:1 or a 9.2:1 by je or cp. and rods, go with eagle.
also, i would try to upgrade the throttle body to at least a 65mm. the stock size is 62mm (i believe) and i'm pretty sure you'd be able to get another 6-8 whp on just upgrading the tb.
just keep in mind, cheap and fast is not reliable.
good luck boss.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DougieStyle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not worried about 2k im expecting to spend 10k on my motor/turbo setup. I was just asking, Would you buy a complete b16 then rip it apart to build it? or try to find a b16 block to build then get a head, IM/TB, Harness, and the other misc stuff???</TD></TR></TABLE>
b16 head / gsr block would be nice.
i've read people with a full gsr motor swap to a b16 head and get at least an extra 20 hp because the b16 just flows that much better.
or maybe i misread it. correct me if i'm wrong.
granted it is more work, but it'll bring you that much closer to your power goals.
b16 head / gsr block would be nice.
i've read people with a full gsr motor swap to a b16 head and get at least an extra 20 hp because the b16 just flows that much better.
or maybe i misread it. correct me if i'm wrong.
granted it is more work, but it'll bring you that much closer to your power goals.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gsr x civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and damn i always see schister, as well as shodan, recommending the silver surfer setup / sls. turbo combo must be great
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The Silver Surfer in Action AND SLS's 10.57 piston/rod B16 on a 57 trim...what other proof do you need??
and damn i always see schister, as well as shodan, recommending the silver surfer setup / sls. turbo combo must be great
</TD></TR></TABLE>The Silver Surfer in Action AND SLS's 10.57 piston/rod B16 on a 57 trim...what other proof do you need??
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