Hey I got a 95 civic hatch with a 95 gsr engine and I believe that the vtec on a gsr needs to hit at like 4.5 but mine hits loud at 6.5 how can I tell what was done or has it been chipped or whats the deal?





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The SOHC VTEC's engage at 4.8k. For the GSR I think the engagement point is like 5.5 or something to that effect. Pitch change is sometimes a slow transition, I doubt anything is wrong.

 

actually mines also engaged at 4'5 with my virgin P72 and after my chip still remained the same. If its chipped you would need to open your ecu and take a pictures its kinda hard to explain. ITs easier for you to take a pictures of the motherboard then for someone to tell you to look for a chip cuz it blends in very well lol. Syndacate SOHCS engage at a 4.8? i thought it was a little later.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92EG8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually mines also engaged at 4'5 with my virgin P72 and after my chip still remained the same. If its chipped you would need to open your ecu and take a pictures its kinda hard to explain. ITs easier for you to take a pictures of the motherboard then for someone to tell you to look for a chip cuz it blends in very well lol. Syndacate SOHCS engage at a 4.8? i thought it was a little later.</TD></TR></TABLE>

4.8k at WOT assuming the MAP sensor and a few other sensors' readings are in check.

It sometimes extends it a bit based on throttle position, manifold pressure, etc.

 

Maybe Iab's?

 

well, i dont know about the vtec engaging late, but on my gsr engages around 20mph in first (idont have a tach, so im not sure what rpm that is), and you can really hear it and feel when it engages. i dont think it matters when you hear it as long as you feel it (i.e. the power band)

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not sure, but heres a really quick photoshop i did in roughly 2 minuets... see for your self (too lazy to do the rear wheel, and i went with the first pic's i saw... sorry for the crapibility of the picture, but hey, its a rough idea. p.s. i SUCK at photoshop)

 

i don't see where you people get off about "feeling" VTEC. It's not supposed to be 'felt'. It's supposed to give your valves a higher lift/duration so the torque curve doesn't fall off in the higher rpm's, it's not to be compared to turbo lag or nitrous.

The only car I can say i've been able to even come close to "feeling" VTEC in is an S2K. And I thought the VTEC kicked in at 5400 on SOHC's, that's what my tach was reading on my Y8, but, alot of honda tach's are off so i could be wrong there. Make sure your car is warm too and you're good on oil, those are ideal parts of VTEC engagement.

 

... i dont know why you cant feel it, i feel a small, but noticable power gain when it kicks in.

call me a ricer or w/e u want, but i do feel, and hear it... (in my gsr)

 

THANX BRO the photo shop is ok it does look better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NegativeXero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't see where you people get off about "feeling" VTEC. It's not supposed to be 'felt'. It's supposed to give your valves a higher lift/duration so the torque curve doesn't fall off in the higher rpm's, it's not to be compared to turbo lag or nitrous.

The only car I can say i've been able to even come close to "feeling" VTEC in is an S2K. And I thought the VTEC kicked in at 5400 on SOHC's, that's what my tach was reading on my Y8, but, alot of honda tach's are off so i could be wrong there. Make sure your car is warm too and you're good on oil, those are ideal parts of VTEC engagement.</TD></TR></TABLE> Are you retarded? Have you been in a car that has a gsr swap? You can definitely feel and hear the vtec, Sohc vtec you can feel and hear it but not even close to gsr. And yes I have also driven a s2k vtec is pretty comparable but s2k lacks the torque.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ejoner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Are you retarded? Have you been in a car that has a gsr swap? You can definitely feel and hear the vtec, Sohc vtec you can feel and hear it but not even close to gsr. And yes I have also driven a s2k vtec is pretty comparable but s2k lacks the torque. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Lacks TQ maybe in 6th Gear. First of all Gsr are not the **** lol and a Sk2 would smoke any Gsr swapped car And anyone who really cares about Vtec is just a dam ricer Vtec wasnt made so your car goes faster. i know Ls's and pull buses on B and K motors

 

i dunno about that.....i always thought the SI rims looks as if they belong on a Element....thats just me though...if i had a choice i would stick with them black wheels....but hey if you don't want em..i mean you can put em up for sale..lol.

yea some people don't like vtec and we all respect their opinions...but uh why do people go through the trouble of swapping heads on their LS if they weren't getting noticeable power and torque gains??? but then again i wouldn't be the one to call anyone retarded either. especially if i expected help from someone.

 

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Lacks TQ maybe in 6th Gear. First of all Gsr are not the **** lol and a Sk2 would smoke any Gsr swapped car And anyone who really cares about Vtec is just a dam ricer Vtec wasnt made so your car goes faster. i know Ls's and pull buses on B and K motors </TD></TR></TABLE>

ummm.... no

vtec was designed to give you better low end, and top end performance, which in terms does make your car go faster. why do u think the vtec cam lobes are bigger than the normal lobes? bigger lobe + longer duration = better performance

how does caring about vtec make you a ricer? i love my vtec on my gsr, and i sure as hell dont slap on every NOS, and AEM sticker i find on my car and fill the cockpit full of neon lights... i didnt know caring about how my car performed would make me a ricer

and like what mellowbeam said, why would anyone go through the trouble of slapping on Vtec heads on LS's if it wouldnt give them noticable power gains?

you sir, are a dumb ***

 

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ummm.... no

vtec was designed to give you better low end, and top end performance, which in terms does make your car go faster. why do u think the vtec cam lobes are bigger than the normal lobes? bigger lobe + longer duration = better performance

how does caring about vtec make you a ricer? i love my vtec on my gsr, and i sure as hell dont slap on every NOS, and AEM sticker i find on my car and fill the cockpit full of neon lights... i didnt know caring about how my car performed would make me a ricer

and like what mellowbeam said, why would anyone go through the trouble of slapping on Vtec heads on LS's if it wouldnt give them noticable power gains?

you sir, are a dumb *** </TD></TR></TABLE>

No u sir r one just on a stock motor ya the lobes a little bigger but not by much and ya when u do a Ls/Vtec u feel a difference because of compression and anyone whos done a Ls/V doesnt leave the insides stock so ya u can feel and hear it more then a stock B16 or B18. I mean who goes around o ya my Vtec is about to kick in hold on no if anyone does that your a ricer and your gettin mad replyin to me so u much in fact be one cause i have a single cam that will work Gsr, Ls/v and Si. every time i get done their like no fair my Vtec didnt kick in lol

 

 

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No u sir r one just on a stock motor ya the lobes a little bigger but not by much and ya when u do a Ls/Vtec u feel a difference because of compression and anyone whos done a Ls/V doesnt leave the insides stock so ya u can feel and hear it more then a stock B16 or B18. I mean who goes around o ya my Vtec is about to kick in hold on no if anyone does that your a ricer and your gettin mad replyin to me so u much in fact be one cause </TD></TR></TABLE>

i didnt know heads raised ur compression up enough to get you a 30 hp
so your saying that longer duration and bigger cam lobe doesn give you any power? Vtec is a way to give you better top end... not very much, but it does help. one of the reasons gsr's are superior to LS's, even with a shorter stroke!

as for this...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cln92eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a single cam that will work Gsr, Ls/v and Si. every time i get done their like no fair my Vtec didnt kick in lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'd pay to see a N/A single cam non-vtec rape a gsr (i know it can happen, but its rare) ... btw, Si isn't a motor

 

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i'd pay to see a N/A single cam non-vtec rape a gsr (i know it can happen, but its rare) ... btw, Si isn't a motor </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I will put a Video of my buddys car beatin one and as for Si isnt a motor then what the hell is a B16A2 or D16Z6 HUH? wanna answer me that one and dont say its just a number or motor cause if thats so the their isnt Ls motors or Gsr Right cause their just B18s right thats what your tellin me isnt it whos the retard now dumb ***

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cln92eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well I will put a Video of my buddys car beatin one and as for Si isnt a motor then what the hell is a B16A2 or D16Z6 HUH? wanna answer me that one and dont say its just a number or motor cause if thats so the their isnt Ls motors or Gsr Right cause their just B18s right thats what your tellin me isnt it whos the retard now dumb *** </TD></TR></TABLE>

... yeah, there's Civic Si's, but a honda civic isn't a motor, now is it? besides, theres multiple Si's... theres de sol Si's, Civic Si's etc... there for its not a motor, because the 06-07 Si has a K20, which wouldnt make the term Si a motor, its a trim model. then again, a LS isn't a motor specificaly, but every LS model type is a B18, there for its commonly refered to as a LS... same with GSR's. theres only one type of gsr (b18c?) and multiple Si's (b16a?, d16, k20 etc)