My problem is the car smokes at idle at Random times... You can drive for an hour and never see it smoke and then while at a stoplight it will smoke for 5-10 seconds.. And its definitely oil smoke not gas...
Im puzzled to what it is, maybe valve seals I dont know. Compression #s are very high...It's a 2002 with 97,xxx miles on it....

Any help on this would be much appreciated... Thanks chris

 

i dont smoke its bad for your health.
But umm sounds like early valve seal warning to me. Try a leakdown test. What are the compression numbers exactly???

 

227-228 on all 4

 

my friend had the same problem, compression was good, and it only smoked on start up and idle, it was the valve guides and seals.

 

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how many cranks?

fuel pump is off?

 

2-3 cranks fuel was on didnt pull the relay, but they were all within 1-2 psi of each other so thats not the problem....It just smokes like every other day not all the time. It could be guides and seals but i dont know....

 

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my 2002 with 29,000 miles does the same thing. i've noticed my MPG has gone down considerably too. is the valve seal thing a big deal? expensive to fix?

 

rings maybe?

 

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Oil rings going bad it would do it all the time....

 

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Oil rings going bad it would do it all the time....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Under load, yes.

Bad rings would also show up in the compression tests.

 

Thanks for all the help guys...

 

Mine smoked a little when I stopped at red lights and I used about a quart of oil every 3-5k miles. I bought some crank vents and it totally stopped both the oil burning and using.

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