test pipe or high flow cat
i know they both have the same purpose but high flow cats are pretty expensive. im asking if there is a noticeable benefit from a cat as to just welding your own pipe for a lot cheaper. my only concern would be the o2 sensor.
A noticable difference? Of course! Lets see...you will be polluting the environment even worse, you won't pass inpection, you will have to fool your ECU into thinking you have a real cat (or have a CEL on all the time ), and your car will sound crappy.
If it's too expensive for you to get a high flow cat, then just don't get anything.
If it's too expensive for you to get a high flow cat, then just don't get anything.
I've used a resonated and straight test pipe and finally decided to go with a high flow cat. Tests prove that on a NA car that the HP differences are minimal... IMO the smell and raspy sound aren't worth the maybe 1 HP difference.
Yeah High flow def. I got me a resonated test pipe right now(its illegal) someone is selling me a high flow in a week. The car smells like bad exhaust right now.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A noticable difference? Of course! Lets see...you will be polluting the environment even worse, you won't pass inpection, you will have to fool your ECU into thinking you have a real cat (or have a CEL on all the time ), and your car will sound crappy.
If it's too expensive for you to get a high flow cat, then just don't get anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If it's too expensive for you to get a high flow cat, then just don't get anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is a comparison between a 200 cell cat and a test pipe, both in 2.25" dia. The dyno is from a K24, but you get the idea there's not much of difference in gain for NA application. The blue is the test pipe.
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High-flow cat expensive? I don't think so.
http://www.kteller.biz/prodtyp...y=cat
For around 88 bucks+ shipping you can have one. They can even make custom ones.
http://www.kteller.biz/prodtyp...y=cat
For around 88 bucks+ shipping you can have one. They can even make custom ones.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is a comparison between a 200 cell cat and a test pipe, both in 2.25" dia.</TD></TR></TABLE>
for good information.
for good information.
street car = high flow cat
race car = open header (no test pipe, no exhaust)
stop polluting the air in your STOCK motor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is a comparison between a 200 cell cat and a test pipe, both in 2.25" dia. The dyno is from a K24, but you get the idea there's not much of difference in gain for NA application. The blue is the test pipe.
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good post. The test pipe would gain a little more power if the mixture was richened up a little bit. Nevertheless, good post.
race car = open header (no test pipe, no exhaust)
stop polluting the air in your STOCK motor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is a comparison between a 200 cell cat and a test pipe, both in 2.25" dia. The dyno is from a K24, but you get the idea there's not much of difference in gain for NA application. The blue is the test pipe.
</TD></TR></TABLE>good post. The test pipe would gain a little more power if the mixture was richened up a little bit. Nevertheless, good post.
test pipes make your car sound like ***....
on a WS2
test pipe:

stock cat:
http://videos.streetfire.net/v...3.htm
my car both times....and polluting is bad!
on a WS2
test pipe:

stock cat:
http://videos.streetfire.net/v...3.htm
my car both times....and polluting is bad!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01electrolude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does a test-pipe have one socket for 02 sensor? Y does my check engine light comes on ? </TD></TR></TABLE>
As I can see you are the bumper of old threads here. To awnser your question, my test pipe does have a spot for an 02 sensor.
IDK why your CEL light comes on, you are going to have to be more specfic as to what code you are throwing.
As I can see you are the bumper of old threads here. To awnser your question, my test pipe does have a spot for an 02 sensor.
IDK why your CEL light comes on, you are going to have to be more specfic as to what code you are throwing.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dumkopf »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">High-flow cat expensive? I don't think so.
http://www.kteller.biz/prodtyp...y=cat
For around 88 bucks+ shipping you can have one. They can even make custom ones. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The above are some smaller Carsound cats with 400 cell ceramic substrates. They flow more than stock mainly because they have larger outlets than stock. But a 300 or 200 cell cat will flow even more. My 2-1/2" 300 cell metal substrate cats flow around 365 cfm @ 28 inches where my 200 cell metal substrate cats flow around 440 cfm.
http://www.kteller.biz/prodtyp...y=cat
For around 88 bucks+ shipping you can have one. They can even make custom ones. </TD></TR></TABLE>
The above are some smaller Carsound cats with 400 cell ceramic substrates. They flow more than stock mainly because they have larger outlets than stock. But a 300 or 200 cell cat will flow even more. My 2-1/2" 300 cell metal substrate cats flow around 365 cfm @ 28 inches where my 200 cell metal substrate cats flow around 440 cfm.
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