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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Default when taking off from 1st to 2nd gear, is it normal for car to slide so much?

ahah im so use to this, i wonder if its just suppose to be different for an s2k ..

all the prevs tegs / eg's / ek's ive driven / raced i know when shiftin from 1st to 2nd at redline quickl, u would usually slide / jerk to a certain side for some reason..


but i was just assuming "oh s2000, expensive car, rwd ! " maybe it wouldnt,

but it always Slides alot whenver i shift from 1st to 2nd redline, IE hit 9k, shift, chirping & sliding to the left..


kinda feels unsafe maybe ??


btw im on ESPELIR springs & Advan RG's in MR2 offset, could that be the problem?

i dont think i ever remember it happening on my OEM stock wheels.. but i cant remmber for certain..
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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Default Re: when taking off from 1st to 2nd gear, is it normal for car to slide so much? (J.nguyen)

1 word - alignment
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WowOzYouRock &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1 word - alignment</TD></TR></TABLE>

my car dsnt swerve or anything when driving normally, and previous owner had an alignment done to it before he sold it to me. the only thing i changed was the wheels.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Default Re: when taking off from 1st to 2nd gear, is it normal for car to slide so much? (J.nguyen)

was the car already dropped when you got it, or did u put the springs on after? u should always get an alignment after dropping it
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Default Re: when taking off from 1st to 2nd gear, is it normal for car to slide so much? (J.nguyen)

what tires are you running? Are they completely warmed up when this situation happens.

hell i can get a stock ap1 with cold cheap tires to chirp or break loose going into 3rd
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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Default Re: when taking off from 1st to 2nd gear, is it normal for car to slide so much? (J.nguyen)

1. Check tire pressure
2. Alignment, you just stated that you got new wheels. So new wheels = different offsets + (possible) different tires. Which in return means you need another alignment.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Default Re: when taking off from 1st to 2nd gear, is it normal for car to slide so much? (papa5murf)

my tire pressure is good,

others said new wheels wouldnt need alignemnt, but maybe they are wrong?

the tires were pretty warm, about 20 miles of freeway driven before situation


yeah car was alreay dropped when i got it, only thing suspension wise was was changing the wheels


or am i just shifting too hard and just dropping the clutch , or could it be involved withs omething with my clutch? (OEM clutch /w 120k miles)
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Default Re: when taking off from 1st to 2nd gear, is it normal for car to slide so much? (J.nguyen)

Keep in mind that the offsets on your wheels are significantly lower than those of the OEM wheels. You're running an a completely different and wider track than before. Get an alignment.
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 05:50 AM
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Default Re: when taking off from 1st to 2nd gear, is it normal for car to slide so much? (J.nguyen)

I would suggest that, just before redline, aggressively yank the steering wheel hard left and bang into 2nd gear with full throttle.

Make sure you're not wearing a seatbelt.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:04 AM
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Default Re: when taking off from 1st to 2nd gear, is it normal for car to slide so much? (pcorad)

dood a decently powered RWD car will toss the rear to one side or another if the tires break loose.... also tire type plays a factor.... mine would throw itself to the left at times....

its nothing
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcorad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would suggest that, just before redline, aggressively yank the steering wheel hard left and bang into 2nd gear with full throttle.

Make sure you're not wearing a seatbelt.</TD></TR></TABLE> or the right, its just as fun
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Urban Camo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> or the right, its just as fun </TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe left and right! Practicing car control is cool!
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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I always thought that a rwd vehicle will kick its rear end out when shifting hard from first to second. A fwd dosn't
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Run wider rear tires and there is no way it chirp or move when shifting into 2nd....
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 05:37 AM
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Do you see F1, IndyCar, ChampCar, Prototypes, et al "kick their rear ends out" every time they shift from 1st to 2nd?

No you don't.

Why? Because they are piloted by "drivers", not hammerheads.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcorad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you see F1, IndyCar, ChampCar, Prototypes, et al "kick their rear ends out" every time they shift from 1st to 2nd?

No you don't.

Why? Because they are piloted by "drivers", not hammerheads. </TD></TR></TABLE>

not a good comparison at all.
a. they drive for a living.
b. probaly running the stickiest tires in the world.
c. more tech in it than your iphone.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Truong09 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I always thought that a rwd vehicle will kick its rear end out when shifting hard from first to second. A fwd dosn't </TD></TR></TABLE>


ditto. the jerking is called torque steer and no lsd on a fwd ftl. but never will the rear kick out.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcorad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would suggest that, just before redline, aggressively yank the steering wheel hard left and bang into 2nd gear with full throttle.

Make sure you're not wearing a seatbelt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

best advice to an s2k owner i ever heard. LOL !
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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It just slides out because its got such m4d vtak yo!
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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don't mind it, it's cool! =] haha
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 06:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Truong09 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I always thought that a rwd vehicle will kick its rear end out when shifting hard from first to second. A fwd dosn't </TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds like u never had a high HP FWD with a open diff...
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