I have a 98 DX with manual windows. I just installed a new window regulator from Honda and everything seemed to be working fine. Today when I rolled the window back up, it seemed to be shifting forward and falling off the rear track again.

I've tried to see if there is any problem winding up the window while the door panel is off, but it seems to me that everything is working properly. I greased up the window tracks before winding up the window, but it still seems like there is some binding, but the window still seems to be loose because its falling forward.

Anyone with this problem have a way of fixing it? Or know a way to diagnose exactly what is happening so that I can fix it.

This is such a pain in the ***!

 

Did you adjust the front track when you installed the new reg? The nose of the glass might be getting bound up and causing it to pull forward as you roll up. There's one or two bolts to loosen it so you can find the spot where it won't catch when you roll up, then set it there.

 

Yeah. I adjusted it. I suppose I could try to adjust it again. For some reason it seemed that it was either too tight, or too loose, and there was no spot that it was normal.

The parts manager said at the dealership that the regulator is what normally goes bad, and that the tracks rarely ever get bent. Could this be a possibility though?

 

i had problem with mine, tried searching the net and found out that there was a recal on that, the solution was to change the ruber tracks.

 

I'll have to check that out. Hopefully its not too much cash. Those damn regulators are $100 new from the dealer.


Bump for any more help

 

If it's a recall you shouldn't have to pay...

 

I know I shouldn't have to pay. I was just browsing the net to see if there were any recalls on it, and couldn't find any.

 

ok found the article so here it is:
TSB No.: 97-021
Date: March 28, 2000

Applies To:
1996 - 2000 Civic 2-door (See Vehicles Affected)

Front Windows Bind or Have Come Out of the Run Channel

SYMPTOM;
One or both of the front windows are binding or have come out of the window run channel.

PROBABLE CAUSE:
1996 and 1997 models thru the affected VINS:

Faulty window regulator, and the glass run channel is not seated correctly in the window channels.

1997 models after the affected VINs, all 1998-99 models, and 2000 models thru the affected VINs:

The glass run channel is not seated correctly in the window channels.
VEHICLES AFFECTED:


Replace the window regulator(s), and reinstall the glass run channel on the vehicles shown.


Reinstall the glass run channel on the vehicles shown.

CORRECTIVE ACTION:
1996 and 1997 models thru the affected VINs:

Replace the window regulator, and reinstall the glass run channel. Replace the glass run channel if it is damaged.

1997 models after the affected VINs, all 1998-99 models, and 2000 models thru the affected VINs:

Reinstall the glass run channel. Replace the glass run channel if it is damaged.

PARTS INFORMATION:
Left Power Window Regulator/N 04725-S00-A01
Left Manual Window Regulator/N 72250-S00-003
Left Glass Run Channel/N 72275-S03-G01
Right Power Window Regulator/N 04720-S00-A01
Right Manual Window Regulator/N 72210-S00-003
Right Glass Run Channel/N 72235-S03-G01

REQUIRED MATERIALS:
Plastic Cover Adhesive: P/N 08712-0003
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
Remove the door panel. Refer to section 20 of the 1996-00 Civic Service Manual.
Remove the armrest bracket, then pull down the plastic cover to gain access to the window regulator.


Carefully move the glass until you can see the glass mounting bolts, then loosen them. Slide the guide rearward, remove the glass from the guide, and carefully pull the glass out through the window slot.
Check the year and VIN.

If the vehicle is a 1996 or 1997 within the affected VIN range, replace the window regulator. Go to step 5.
If the vehicle is not a 1996 or 1997 within the affected VIN range, go to step 8.


Remove the two roller guide bolts and the two rear regulator mounting bolts; then remove the front regulator mounting bolts.
Disconnect the power window motor connector, and detach the harness clip (it applicable); then lift and remove the regulator through the opening in the door.
Install the new regulator in the door, then loosely install the two rear mounting bolts and the two roller guide bolts. Do not tighten the two front mounting bolts yet. Go to step 9.
Loosen the window regulator's two rear mounting bolts, two front mounting bolts, and two roller guide bolts.


Inspect the glass run channel:

If the run channel is not sitting in the window channels properly, reinstall it.
If the run channel is damaged, replace it. Refer to section 20 of the appropriate service manual.
If the run channel is sitting in the window channels properly, go to step 10.

NOTE: If the run channel is sitting in the window channels properly and the window regulator was not replaced, disregard this service bulletin and follow normal troubleshooting procedures.


Reinstall the glass in the door, but do not tighten the glass mounting bolts. Reconnect the power window motor connector, and temporarily reconnect the window switch (if applicable). Raise the window about 100 mm (4.0 in.) from the fully lowered position.


Push the glass toward the rear of the door, and have an assistant tighten the two glass mounting bolts, the four regulator mounting bolts, and the two roller guide bolts.


Loosen the front channel mounting bolt and nut. Push the front channel toward the glass, and tighten the mounting bolt and nut.
Check the window for smooth operation, and check for gaps between the glass and the run channel with the window all the way up.

If the window does not operate smoothly, or if you see gaps between the run channel and the window, loosen all the mounting bolts, and repeat steps 10 through 12.
If the window operates smoothly and you see no gaps between the run channel and the window, reinstall the plastic cover, the armrest bracket, and the door panel.

 

Damn man. Thanks a bunch. I'm gonna go visit Honda tomorrow after work and see what they can do for me. I'd fix it, but I'd rather have them do it, just so I'm not frustrated anymore.

 

Is this the same for honda crx's?

 

Check out your rubber window tracks. Sometimes the bad regulator causes the window to move in the wrong direction and damage the rubber track. Our cars have a bad window design. Make sure all the bolts holding the regulator to the door are secured tightly once it's adjusted right, mine loosened and caused more problems. Good luck!

 

same ***** happening to me...i need a manual regulator for a 99 4 door dx