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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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I searched but every post was irrelevant and had really dumb comments about not to do it because its heavy and that was it. Or Type R is better than H22 but a B18C5 cost like 4 grand for the swap and tend to burn oil and smoke after some mileage. Atleast all the Rs I have seen.

No stupid posts about Its heaver because with everything done it only ways 70 lbs more. I am not worried about understeer and stupid things like youll crash into a mountain side even with a JDM sway bar.


Okay so basically I was talking all this BS about going Nitrous and B18C1 bla bla bla. More info and more knowledge I am not liking N20 because the cars wont be as fast as it should be without the bottle. Ive been looking into something not as typical as a B18C swap to run low 15s. For the price I can work something out to make 14s all day.

And just so people dont think I am a bench tuner or e-tuner last time I posted car was completely stock on shitty tires, blown suspension and different set of steel wheels and rims.

Now car sits with new Headlights sanded and buffed, 12K HID Kit, JDM Parking Light, New K+N Air Filter, fresh uncurbbed 15" Si rims with 195/55 Falken Zeis rotated balanced, new axles, outer tie rod, KYB GR2 Struts on Eibach Sport springs all around and front Power Slot rotors with Hawk Pads. Still working on suspension, still looking for LCA, ASR and Swaybar.

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- Friend blew his boosted H22 block. He was in a emergency pulled over from the cops and turned off the car immediatly and caused some damage. Drove home normal and by the time he got home the rod blew a whole in the block. He says the head is perfectly good.

Head-Comes complete with I/M, Dizzy, Sensors, Cams, Gears (Skunk 2 adj). As a good friend that I have he made me an offer I cant refuse. Block comes along with the motor for $300 all sensors.


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-Now, a bare block wouldnt cost much. The biggest concern would be of mine is the H22/H23 VTEC Frankenstein. Would it be worth it since I hear once you start with a H22 its much cheaper to complete. Or just go again with a H22 block and build to last with some good rods and piston. Anything that could still be used from the stock block I would use for the new one meaning sensors and stuff.

Trans-As far as a tranny Im thinkin a H22 with LSD would suffice since I have a friend that has one lying around that would trade with me plus cash for my B18 swap.

Axles
- What kind from what cars can they be taken or made with?

AC/PS- Is it possible to retain DD qualties. Not interested so much in P/S but A/C IS A MUCH there is no option for no A/C. Any custimizations needed and how intense?

Mounts
- I need a 3 peice kit from Hasport or the like?

Linkage/Cables- What car needed or custom bought?

ECU
- A stock P13 would suffice for now, no problem getting one of those.

Firewall/Frame
- Will there have to be an cutting like in EGs other than the shifter?
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Old Aug 3, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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have you tried looking into buying a h22 block or do you just assume its cheap cuz its not the whole motor? last time i looked in my area nobody sold the block separate.

still seems better to put in a gsr motor with mods instead because first of all it fits and its much less of a hassle to deal with in the long run without all these random custom parts.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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check out my homies thread. i agree on calling around and checking on prices..

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1803990
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Anyone else with more answers. No i have shopped around a know quite a few H lovers here.
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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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If u're thinking about doing this swap I encourage u, an h22 in an integra is really nice, but is a bit of work. First of all it's really not that much heavier and all, and after the swap I couldn't even tell a difference in handling. As far as A/C and P/S u can retain both with a 5th gen power steering pump and bracket because it allows for hood clearance. For A/C HCP makes a specific bracket for eg's and tegs with h22 swaps to retain A/C. The only cutting u have to do is for the shifter, which isn't too complicated. As far as axles theres a couple combinations u can go with or u can get custom axles, I got DSS( drive shaft shop) stage 1 axles specifically designed for h22 swap into a teg. Also, a p13 works fine, I'm runnin p13 and it works just fine, only thing u get is EGR cel but I never worry about it cause it doesn't affect anything, just block it off.
After u get the swap done there's really not many cons, it's just like a stock gsr motor, with more torque, more HP, and more displacement, and it's all stock so u don't have to worry about it abusing it as much. If u got any more questions feel free to pm me.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 08:15 PM
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Oh see that answers my questions, more comments like these I need.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Pics Tomorrow!

Hey guys, good news I just bought my friends Blown H22 with some goodies. Comes with Clutch Masters Flywheel, Stage 3 Clutch, Skunk2 Camgears, Alternator, Dizzy, Longblock, Wire Harness and rear Torque Bracket.. He explained to me the head gasket it has is a thick one for boost looking at like 8:9 compression or something. Motor was boosted. Im not looking for boost but yeah its all good. So, my other friend has a JDM H22 Trans So all I need is Axles, ECU, Shortblock, Side mounts, and Integra GSR Harness. Any ideas for side mounts and axles?
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Okay I keep reading in the archives about H23 VTEC but its not helping me understand more power. Or the best block setup.

Okay I understand more Displacement=More TQ right? The point of doing H22 Head on a H23 Block is to have like a B20 VTEC Torque and HP all in one engine.

So Should I be looking for a H23 Block and using a H22 crank with H22 Rods and H22 Type S Pistons?

Or is it H23 block with H23 Crank and H23 Pistons and H23 Pistons?

I understand that I need oil squirters for the block so it can run correctly. To 7600 RPM.

I need a definate answer cause I am totally confused. Im not sure what to buy and what to look for. I want a sterdy bottom end for N/A and maybe bottle fed in the future for a daily driver. Not sure what to look for yet.

P.S My friend gave me a Internal Coil VTEC Distributor, from my knowledge H/F series were external coil. But then his new H22 Turbo setup on his EG is Internal Coil too. He wasnt to sure about it when I asked.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Give raxles a call. I originally went with mix and match axles. Didnt work well. Gave raxles a call and he worked with me and I got amazingly well fitting axles for 270 bucks. I highly recommend you give them a call. I have A/C and P/S. Just refer to what the dude above said. Just stick with a H22 block and crank. Less work and the H23 block doesnt yield that much power increase. The P13 works really well but to really turn the motor on you should ppick up a p28 and tune it with a hondata. I picked up almost a quarter second in the quarter by getting a proper tune. Turned a 14 second car to a barely 13 second car.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Thanks alot man sounds good. I was thinking about this H23 thing sounds too hard for me that being my first H22 swap. What stage axles are they?
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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stage means nothing. His stock axles are good for 300 horsepower and he will back them. If your planning on making more whp, then talk with the guy and he will set you up with something better.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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In my opinion the H23/H22 motor isnt worth the time put into it. There are many more gains found elsewhere. The head if properly ported and polished is probably one of your best bangs for the buck without going forced induction or upping the compression. The stock IM is a bottleneck though but you are taking care of that with the skunk2 IM. I went the Euro R IM route and got way too deep into to find that i will have to relocate the brake fluid dist. block and massage the firewall a bit. Also, If your lowered prepare for pinching headers and banging up your oil pan. If you have a friend that can weld, take some hight off the pan.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Im not lowered too much
i have 2 finger gap on 195/55/R15. Plus im planing on buying one of those header protectors.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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Is there a website for Raxles. I just need decent axles. I dont need nothing serious and nothing too expensive.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:29 PM
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Go to a junkyard and pick up some axles. Genuine Honda ftw
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Damn $300 homi? i bought my whole teg 4 $350 with a b16 already in it. but good luck .
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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Another good custom axles shop is DSS (driveshaftshop) that's where i got my h22 to teg axles, they got a huge selection and can make any kind of axles u need. Their website is driveshaftshop.com
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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Yeah for what its worth thats a great deal homie. Wonder where you bought your car from and if your motor has papers or not.
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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DSS axles are 300, im looking for just a little cheaper. Ya know. Something like 250-270.
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