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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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I replaced the slave cylinder with a used one. I know I know, it's not worth the headache buying a used one but it actually came with the hard lines that I replaced. So after installing the lines/slave cylinder I bleed it twice and refilled it and bleed it a little more so there is no air in the system. Now I noticed the clutch pedal feels a little to soft half way in and then slightly stiff. The car pulls right away after slightly lifting the clutch pedal in 1st gear, but why is it so soft half way down?

- I installed a exedy stage 1 clutch kit with a fidanzza 8 lb flywheel
- B16 tranny
-B20z block

Let me know what you guys think might be the problem.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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did u bleed it correctly? Slave cylinders are like 25 dollars brand new
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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You might have to adjust the rod to your liking on the master cylinder.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondachris1994 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did u bleed it correctly? Slave cylinders are like 25 dollars brand new</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had quote for a slave cylinder for $48 new from a aftermarket place. On ebay it costs around same too. I'm sure I bleed it right, could it be that the slave cylinder is bad?
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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I was thinking about that, but the weird thing is it was fine before when I had a regular b16 swap in there. The line was damaged so I replaced the entire line from CM cylinder to the slave
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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***THIS JUST IN***

I haven't drove the car since yesterday. Just a while ago I decided to take it for a spin and noticed it's tougher to put it in gear now and the clutch pedal is still slightly soft half way down.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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check you clutch master cylinder. Put your head up under the dash and see if it's leaking inside the car. If it isn't leaking, then I don't think you bled it properly.

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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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I checked it twice already after I bleed it, it wasnt leaking. How about the bleeder valve? Could those things go bad?
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Its not good to replace your slave cylinder and not master,so your master could have went bad in the process.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Are you serious? I didnt know that...

So you think I would have to buy a new slave and CM cylinder?
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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I just replaced my slave cyli nder and not the master...if it aint broke dont fix it
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondachris1994 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just replaced my slave cyli nder and not the master...if it aint broke dont fix it
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Me too,but afterwards i was told it was real bad to do.
So knock on wood for me
But just because it hasnt for me,doesnt mean it doesnt have the potential to break for him.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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you dont have to change the master unless it was working fine with stock clutch then after putting in a after market clutch it went soft or to hard w/e . aftre market clutch has a different throw then stock so in some cases you would need to change the master''''a new master not used''''' it happened to me when i put in a 4 puck centerforce in my hatch so yea think of when the problem started before or right after the clutch change
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostedb20EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Me too,but afterwards i was told it was real bad to do.
So knock on wood for me
But just because it hasnt for me,doesnt mean it doesnt have the potential to break for him.</TD></TR></TABLE>thats true, I was also told to replace both of them at the same time, but im stubborn lol
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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The cluth pedal definately didnt feel that way before. I guess I can replace both parts. Back to the drawing board for me, just when I thought I was done
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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u sure u bleed it with the cap on, cause tryin to bleed it with the cap off, will get u nowwhere
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Yeah, I bleed it with the cap on and then I had to refill it cause I had no more to bleed. I bleed it again after that to make sure there is no air in the system
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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sounds to me like a POS clutch. u might have gotten a fake or rebuilt set and the pp is taking a crap on ya. happened to me and i had to change my tranny
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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POS clutch? I picked up my clutch kit from a performance shop out by me called full throttle, I don't think they would risk their business selling fake clutches.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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the second replyer had the right answer - i just replaced the master cylinder - and it was feeling the same way you said. although it COULD be the slave - try adjusting the length of the rod on the master cylinder.

take out the cotter pin
pull out the "****"
seperate the pedal from the MC
unscrew the end-part from the MC (not off...just more..."off")
reconnect the the parts... try again.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostedb20EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its not good to replace your slave cylinder and not master,so your master could have went bad in the process.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what about replacing the master and not the slave? could the slave also go bad?
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