Hi guys ,
I am planning to turbo my type-r Is it a good idea?
For now planing to run just 4-5psi with stock internals
then later upto 10 psi with lower comp pistons n con rods.
would the high compression of the Type-r handle 4-5 psi??
ne of u guys done it before.

sum help would be great , Thanx in advance.

 

Although you should search....

I am in the same boat... thought about boosting on stock internals. Few friends of mine are running 8 pounds all day no problem. Me personally would keep it at 6 pounds or less. Everyone has ran more 8 pounds has messed something up.

 

ive ran 8lbs on stock internals for about the last three years but i probally only put about 6k on it

i made 220whp on mustang dyno
with a greddy turbo and hondata

 

I'd recommend around 6psi if you drive the car daily, and like to drive it hard. You'll get some good power gains, and it'll be a SAFE and RELIABLE setup.

When you build the engine to handle more boost, don't lower the CR, keep at least 10.5:1CR. The response of the Type-R is one of the things that makes it so Damn fun... And with lowered CR, response wouldn't be **** until you hit boost.

 

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i made 270whp at 10-11psi, then i changed diameter of all piping and made same hp at 7psi, i'm pretty sure if i changed to larger turbo i would probably be able to make that hp at 5psi.

if you want reliable results, keep hp in low 200's.. how much psi will it take to acoomplish your hp will depend on many variables, not just piping diameter, variables like how healthy your engine is, compression, turbo size itself.

the most important thing when boosting is.. finances!!! if you can't afford to rebuild, then don't boost.

 

i disagree. you can get turbos that boost early. if you lower the compression ratio you can boost higher. if you want to keep the compression stock... you can boost 8lbs safely with a good tuner. remember it's all in the tune.

 

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...the most important thing when boosting is.. TUNING! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry, finances are a major factor of the old saying; Fast, Cheap, Reliable *Pick two* but I think tuning is the major player in a boosted setup.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coolhandluke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry, finances are a major factor of the old saying; Fast, Cheap, Reliable *Pick two* but I think tuning is the major player in a boosted setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

**** dude, pick one and be happy with that! My turbo ITR is none of the above!

If you're just driving on the street, or occasional 1/4 mile, you can make really good power with a turbo and be "somewhat reliable". I did that for like a day and a half, then took it on a track and started melting/breaking/burning/cracking things.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coolhandluke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I think tuning is the major player in a boosted setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

tuning as in proper fuel/timing maps?? sure its important.. but no less important than having a good wastegate, running too small of injectors, making sure you have no leaks/overboost.. run the right type of oil, maintain temperatures.. change/maintain all of ignition or whatever components often enough to maintain hp/reliability. skimp on any of these and you can ruing your car just as easy even if its properly tuned. when you run lots of hp, you shouldn't skimp on anything cause it will backfire at some point or another. think of every component and make sure its fit for what you're trying to accomplish

but thats not even what i'm trying to say. you can't do any of that if you don't have enough money.. and whats the point of having just enough money to get things started if you can't support the projects. i've seen so many post "my motor is blow, i'm getting out".. well, what did you think was going to happen. everything is a wear item

 

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True story!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

tuning as in proper fuel/timing maps?? sure its important.. but no less important than having a good wastegate, running too small of injectors, making sure you have no leaks/overboost.. run the right type of oil, maintain temperatures.. change/maintain all of ignition or whatever components often enough to maintain hp/reliability. skimp on any of these and you can ruing your car just as easy even if its properly tuned. when you run lots of hp, you shouldn't skimp on anything cause it will backfire at some point or another. think of every component and make sure its fit for what you're trying to accomplish

but thats not even what i'm trying to say. you can't do any of that if you don't have enough money.. and whats the point of having just enough money to get things started if you can't support the projects. i've seen so many post "my motor is blow, i'm getting out".. well, what did you think was going to happen. everything is a wear item</TD></TR></TABLE>

So true. If you want to make good HP, and not break anything, do it right the first time. Over-do everything to be safe, but be prepared to spend for the best. I don't even want to admit how much money i have into my set-up.

 

Hi guys Thanx for all your comments,
but what i ment was, as the Type-R has 11.5 compression as compared to 10.5 on the GSR motor is it safe to run the Type-R with the turbo with that high comp ???
just 5 psi of boost. and is a Garrett Gt2840 a good choice Ar .84 ???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg8b18c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi guys Thanx for all your comments,
but what i ment was, as the Type-R has 11.5 compression as compared to 10.5 on the GSR motor is it safe to run the Type-R with the turbo with that high comp ???
just 5 psi of boost. and is a Garrett Gt2840 a good choice Ar .84 ???
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i don't how much hp you're going to make running that turbo.. but as long as you keep your powerband in low 200's you can have a very reliable setup. and itr compression is 10.6 gsr 10.1

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't how much hp you're going to make running that turbo.. but as long as you keep your powerband in low 200's you can have a very reliable setup. and itr compression is 10.6 gsr 10.1</TD></TR></TABLE>

^ what he said!

If you're worried about the compression ratio then get a Cometic (sp) 3mm headgasket for the ITR.

 

I use a EBC to keep my boost down. I do about 220whp daily but can do 330whp if the boost is turned up. All I can say is be ready to spend money. Its NOT cheap (I don't care what anyone says here). Even if you get a dirt cheap kit and install it yourself, you will be making up for it later when parts start failing.

I recommned you get a good sized budget from the get go. If you don't have the funds, save for it BEFORE you do anything or leave your car alone!! Plain and simple!

Get a good kit (do a search) for the lowest price you can find. If you can install it yourself, do it...otherwise, get a pro, or a friend who can to help you. Find the best tuner in your area and ask him/her what ECU he/she can tune. (DON'T ASK THE DUMBASSES HERE WHAT ECU IS BEST, BECAUSE ALL THEY ARE GOING TO DO IS RECOMMEND WHAT THEY'RE USING WHICH MAY NOT BE BEST FOR YOU!!!) Get the ECU that your favorite tuner is familar with. AND DON'T USE PIGGY BACKS or CRAPPY HACKS AS YOUR FUEL SOLUTION. FUEL/IGNITION ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT LINK IN YOUR SETUP, SO DON'T MAKE IT THE WEAKEST LINK!

I will leave high compression vs. low compression argument up for debate, but I personally prefer reliability over possibly having to replace internals later. It may be a good idea to consult your tuner, and ask if he/she can tune fuel/ ignition reliably on a high compression engine. If he/she recommends against it, DO WHAT THE TUNER SAYS. Also, I would always go for forged pistons and stronger conrods. The stock ITR piston/rods are just not good enough for forced induction, and they will break eventually.

Finally don't become boost happy. Keep your boost within range of what your tuner recommends. Overboosting will not give you more power, just more headaches later. Have at least $1000 left over for incidentals. If you have a stock clutch...it will have to go. Tires/brakes will wear faster.

Be smart research EVERYTHING before you even think of buying parts!!

 

damn you're right! Now I dont want to boost my car unitl the finances are right...btw I dont have a type r I just like this forum better than the Accord forum

 

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Don't listen to this *******.

Buy my entire tuned setup for $5000, sell your stock motor and move on to b00st heaven!

-Chris



p.s. don't read my other post in this thread

 

boost controllers are evil little gadgets. and it doesnt matter how much boost you are running, its the power that you are making that will blow the motor to bits. doesnt take as much boost on big turbo to make the same power as higher boost on a small turbo.

 

Here's a link to a Step by Step Turbo build on a JDM ITR Motor.

http://www.tamparacing.com/for....html

I wouldn't run more than about 8-10 psi 300 whp ish on a stock motor. The part and tune is the most important part, We have boosted many ITRs, Don't be afraid of boost. Do it right and you'll kick yourself for no doing it early.

 

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