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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:05 PM
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Ok... so I just got my ITR stolen and I'm thinking about maybe picking up a S2k.... How much whp can you boost on a s2k with stock internals.... I'm pretty sure that's also depending on the turbo... so what do you guys recommend as far as the turbo too.... also can you post average pricing.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Buy an S first, then figure out boost. There's no $2000 bolt on CARB legal kits if that's what you're looking for. Whatever they give you for the ITR might just cover the turbo kit... now you gotta find a car.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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theres someone on s2ki that had 619whp stock block f20c, but ur gonna spend 5-7 grand easy, aint nothin cheap for the S.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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http://www.s2000turbo.com
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:24 AM
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s2000 has forged internals, its not bulletproof but its special.

Turbo is a waste IMO. Its so easy to spend 8k for a turbo kit and tuning just to run 15psi so you can get added HP.

Get the drive, drive it like you stole it. See what it can do and what you want to do to it to make it better. Why build a high boost/hp monster that can just go streight, s2000 is made for the turns. Thats just my opinion though, im tired of everyone trying to ruin this car and sway it in the direction of civics and other hondas.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">s2000 has forged internals, its not bulletproof but its special.

Turbo is a waste IMO. Its so easy to spend 8k for a turbo kit and tuning just to run 15psi so you can get added HP.

Get the drive, drive it like you stole it. See what it can do and what you want to do to it to make it better. Why build a high boost/hp monster that can just go streight, s2000 is made for the turns. Thats just my opinion though, im tired of everyone trying to ruin this car and sway it in the direction of civics and other hondas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

werd to that
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:36 AM
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Agreed , this is supose to be a circuit machine!!
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:39 AM
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no but a properly sized smaller turbo (gt28rs, gt30r etc...) that will spool FAST and make 350-400whp will make the car that much more fun.

I like my S alottttttttt right now...just wish it had 100-150more hp lol....im planning on turboing in the future....

and 8g's? thats about double what I plan to spend....i mean if your gunna boost the car you SHOULD know something about the mechanics...and be able to install everything yourself (so when the little **** breaks its not sittin in the shop for days/tow bills etc...)
so no installation charges....
although i do plan on building my own piping....exhaust, downpipe, wastegate, I/C piping etc.....
all that needs to be purchased is the regular items (turbo, manifold, WG, injectors, ems, IC, oil lines etc..)...and if you shop around you can find some awesome deals.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">s2000 has forged internals, its not bulletproof but its special.

Turbo is a waste IMO. Its so easy to spend 8k for a turbo kit and tuning just to run 15psi so you can get added HP.

Get the drive, drive it like you stole it. See what it can do and what you want to do to it to make it better. Why build a high boost/hp monster that can just go streight, s2000 is made for the turns. Thats just my opinion though, im tired of everyone trying to ruin this car and sway it in the direction of civics and other hondas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Obviously someone doesnt know anything about turbo kits...

It is very easy to build a turbo setup which is very good for road racing
You pick a turbo such as gt28rs (max hp is 400) get full boost at 3500rpm have throttle response better than any blower for the s2k without alot more high end
Also if you have oversteer get bigger tires or dont power it so hard through the turns...

If turbos were so bad why do they run them on Champ cars?

-James
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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There's more to it than making power. Champ cars are designed from the ground up to be rediculously fast. The S2000 was designed to be a well balanced machine, compromising between power, handling, weight, and comfort.

You, of all people, should know that you can't just slap on a turbo kit and instantly make the S a killer road race car. Suspension, chassis, and drivetrain tweaks are needed as well. The OP doesn't even own an S yet, nor does he have any idea what he has to go through to get there. Let's not plant any mutant seeds in his brain. Besides, the GT28RS will run out of breath anyways.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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wow 8K for a turbo kit.. imma start fabing up kits for it .. any pre orders?

but the gt28r would be a lil on the small side for the S... i would lean towards the gt30.. or hell a t3t4 60 trim with stage 5 wheel would be nice as well!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Francesco &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> im tired of everyone trying to ruin this car and sway it in the direction of civics and other hondas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i wouldnt say all that... im a guy who grew up drag racing.. i love it.. but i love a well balanced car and enjoy doing my time attack sessions thru out socals fwy off/on ramps
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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if all he wants is 400whp then it would do perfectly fine for it but it wont make a single pony more lol

the the turbo setup, slicks all the way around and tein rs supsension would make it a beast on the road coarse with nothing more than boltons

-James
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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GT28 is rated at less then that tho..... 330-350 tops plus dpending on the amount of boost he is pushing 8-9K its blowing nothing but hot air by then
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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The biggest 28rs is rated at 400 you can get it at turboelements.com
yes it might take a couple more lbs of boost to make the same 400 as a 30r but you will get full boost a hella lot sooner
Also as long as you have a good intercooler and a good tune the hot air really isnt all that bad, if you run a cheap intercooler and pisspoor tune yah predet might become an issue, (I have never had a turbo I didnt max out completely nor will I ever get one without maxing it) I choose a turbo that suites my max power goals and am ready for the hot air it will push to make them (huge intercooler) but in the end you will end up with a much better power band if you do this

-James
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Default Re: s2k max internal power (JG-Fabrications)

true and i see your point but with that hot air... and the comp of the f motor even with a good tune isnt gonna last for ****.....
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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It seems to be doing just fine on Hui @ InlineRacing here in houston (I muilt mani/dp/dt) who is running around with 400whp on stock ITR revving to 8.5k daily driver with ac

400whp is 400whp regardless of how big/high compression/rpm

run it pig rich (11:1 afr) and pull out the timing to ensure it stays very conservative, that is how my pumpgas numbers of 465 was made that I daily drove

-James
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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as long as you dont run the turbo over about 14-16 psi the gt28r is very good and effecient, Hui made that power at 14 psi

if you want heat do the math for a 60-1 running at 55% effecient at 30psi that is what mine was at when we did 620whp that is heat

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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JG-Fabrications &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the the turbo setup, slicks all the way around and tein rs supsension would make it a beast on the road coarse with nothing more than boltons

-James</TD></TR></TABLE>

What happens when he needs to slow down? On just A048s I managed to burn the rotors bright red in less than 15 minutes. The car was stock except for the Advans, CT intake, and HKS exhaust. How about cooling? Is the clutch going to hold up? How about his axles and rear end with the huge sideloads that the slicks make? Slippery seats?

I'm just saying he needs a little more than just the boost. He'll be spending more money than the car is worth before he knows it.
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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i dont wanna do the math i drop math after i finished school...
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