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f22b1 in 93 prelude, cranks but wont start, no spark. help!

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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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i just got this prelude, it cranks but dosnt get a spark. distributer seems to be in good shape. all wiring is hooked up except one clip by the distributer, but i cant find where it hooks up. the clip has three female connecters and has a large yellow wire running to it along with a blk/y and i think a green. can anybody help?
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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what year is the f22b1?
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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96 i think
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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Default Re: f22b1 in 93 prelude, cranks but wont start, no spark. help! (unorthodox)

Is there a name or symbol on the dizzy cap, does your car have an external ignition coil or is it in the distributor. The connector that is hooked up, does it have 8 wires. The plug that has 3 female terminals, is it almost square and is there an available spot for a fourth wire. Does your car have a tachometer.

Use a volt meter, when you turn on the key, does the blk/yel wire get power.

My diagram shows two different ignition systems from the 92 (your wire harness on the car) and a 96 (your engine and distributor).

How many spark plug and coil wires coming out of the top of the dizzy. Can you pull the cap off and explain what you see inside along with wire colors, you were not sure on your original post, please be clear.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Default Re: f22b1 in 93 prelude, cranks but wont start, no spark. help! (Duane_in_Japan)

the coil is in the distributer, it has a1 and b1 on the cap. there are 7 wires in one connector and 2 in another, the one that isnt hooked up is square with a place for another wire
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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distibuter also has markings: >pp~t< on it, im pretty sure all the wiring harnesses came with the motor. there is a oxygen sensor dissconnected, but i dont see how that would prevent it from get spark.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 04:54 AM
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You are going to need to give more specifics, you just said the spare connector only has two wires, you said three before. This engine may not be from a Prelude.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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Default Re: f22b1 in 93 prelude, cranks but wont start, no spark. help! (Duane_in_Japan)

OK, your two wire connector is Blk/Yel is Power to the coil and to the Ignitor, the Blue wire is the Tach signal coming out of the distributor, it goes to several places. On the seven wire set, six of them are for the three sensors inside the distributor, CYL, TDC & CKP, the seventh wire, the one off to one side by itself with a blank spot next to it is for the Ignition Input from the ECM to the Ignitor so the Ignitor knows when to turn off the Coil and create spark. Does this help, NO, you are still missing the two wire connector on the car or the distributor, which one is missing please.

Also this should be a TEC distributor. It should have the three letters on the cap as well. I show the seven wire connector on the Integra so far.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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Default Re: f22b1 in 93 prelude, cranks but wont start, no spark. help! (Duane_in_Japan)

the two wires that i was talking about are connected, its the square onewith three wires that i cant find were it connects
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 11:24 AM
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Default Re: f22b1 in 93 prelude, cranks but wont start, no spark. help! (unorthodox)

OK, so the 7 wire connector is hooked up to the dizzy and the 2 wire connector is hooked up to the dizzy and there is a 3 wire connector right next to the dizzy that you are unsure of and we still did not get a confirmation of the wire colors on anything yet, especially the 3 wire connector, you sounded unsure at first. Also which part is it connected to, the 1992 harness or the 1996 engine.

Can you take some real time to help here, I am on overtime on this thread. If you know how to post a pic, that would really help.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Default Re: f22b1 in 93 prelude, cranks but wont start, no spark. help! (Duane_in_Japan)

ok, sorry about that. the 7 wire connector has the colors y/g, 2 blues, orange, orange/blue, w, w/g. the 2 wire connector has blk/w and blue. the 3 wire connector has a big yellow wire a blue and blk/y
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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have no clue on the harness
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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OK, thanks, I cant tell but look at these items, VSS and other sensors on the transmission, EGR valve. Does the car have ABS.

Is the 3 wire connector part of the main harness, how far can it reach. It would really be nice to have a pic. One more time, did this connector come with the engine (96? & what car) or was it your original cars harness (93).

Take the cap off of the dizzy, use a test light, put it on the coil + wire (blk/yel), turn on the key, does the light come on. Lets find out why you dont have spark still. Do you have a tach, does it move when cranking the engine.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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96 is obd2. are you using an obd1 ecu, obd1 injectors and obd1 distributor?


if the old motor had an external coil and the new one has an internal then you will have to modify the plug that went to the stock coil. the yellow and a yellow/black wire you speak of need to be spliced together. the green wire is useless.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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can you put the obd1 distributor on the `96 motor?
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