looking a B16 block off here and then a C1 head simple going to build both and hopefully install in the spring all motor civic. what tranny is going to be best for the setup. and for those of you that have done this what is your HP and Torque?

 

si tranny for acceleration. only question is why the si block? why not a gsr, ls, b20? just question not flaming haha. i just think youll get way more power out of one of those blocks compared to a b16 block.

 

why are you using a gsr head? us a b16 head

 

i was told if i have a built si block with a GSR head i will have more power than any individually

 

i really think its the other way around buds but yah use an s1 tranny and b16 head + b18c1 black = poor mans type r

 

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Right and since you are building the block all motor, you will want to rev high which means the b16 head will be more efficent.

 

since there is a diffrence in size shouldnt the compression be higher

 

B16 tranny

 

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The combustion chamber or w/e is smaller in the GSR head so it creates more compression. And don't listen to all the B16 head flows better and whatnot. Its not that much of a difference.

As for tranny: ITR or B16 (Y21, S4C)

 

so the combo isnt a good idea or what?

 

no a combo is fine, just do you want all motor do you want turbo, are you trying to be on a budget?

 

all motor and NO budget i have a running car i would like the new motor in by august but i can wait...

 

It'd be probably cheaper and more efficent to do a b18b/b20b block and a b16 head, and then a b16 tranny with LS 5th gear.

Wewt.

 

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No its fine. Just letting you know some info. As for staying N/A, will you be sticking with the 1.6?

 

yes... that is the plan i am starting to research now as i found a block on here tonight

 

all motor no budget, woot woot go for k20 haha j/k. my buddy has a b20 vtec (b16 head, b20 block, b16 pistons) and got 182 whp with intake and exhaust. so combos are good buds.

 

yeah i wanna build the block and head so i can beat or atleast keep up with some N/A guys

 

No budget.
I would recommend the b18c block with choice of pistons, better rods. B16 head ported polished with minimum type r cams upgraded valvetrain.

I have a lsd Y21 and love it but I also agree with Eran as I will be in the market for an LS 5th gear. 3700 rpm's at 70 mph is not that fun after a while.

Good luck with your build and I recommend the b18c for simple fact of better rod/stroke ratio and vtec oiling is already routed. That is why I like them over the ls b18.

Otherwise I have a B16A block I would part out with as well.