I need to find a D17A2 head for my D17A1, I NEED VTEC!!!!!

 

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i dont even know what to say about this statement...

"I NEED VTEC!!!!! "


FYI, vtec for the d17 is probably the most shitty vtec every made.

 

im selling my head if you want... $200 shipped if you live on the mid west or west states

 

yeah i have it, its not particularly exhilirating.

 

I don't see a huge difference between Vtec and Non. It's actually quite a depressing upgrade, unless you're going with some serious internals and turbo charging.

 

i also have one for sale i am looking for $200+ shipping but it is complete and includes intake manifold, throottle body, injectors and fuel rail, and everything is COMPLETE under the valve cover. let me know if you interested!!!

 

The number difference for the two is 127bhp vs. 115bhp. And it is alot of work to complet this upgrade. I do not see any reason to do this, unless you plan on doing what toyomatt84 said.

 

actually that is a bolt on 10hp. which is actually really hard to achieve with the d17 motor. its really not a lot of work to do the swap and all you need to control the vtec is a V-AFC. even with intake headers and exhaust you still wont get the 10hp the vtec head offers and you will spend more. there arent really any mods for this motor that are worth while unless you go FI or nitrous. even then the vtec head would produce better numbers. so you tell me why it isnt cost effective to do this. if you can do the install yourself it would be the cheapest way to get hp out of the motor. i also live on 7thgencivic.com. and i have done plenty of homework on the subject. i planned to swap this on to my 01 vic but i have otherissues i have to work out with my 96 teg. that is the ONLY reason i am trying to sell it. otherwise it will make its way onto the bottom end of mine.

 

It is very diffecult to do this upgrade, unless you know exactly what you are doing. And a shop will charge alot of money to do it for you. Thats why I do not think its a good idea. But yes that is a huge jump for a d17 i can not argue that

 

maybe a headswap is more than the common joe can handle in your eyes. but to me its all turning bolts. if you can do this install yourself the results are great. i understand what you are saying i just dont think of it as being hard at all. your basically replacing what is already in there and connecting the vtec silenoid to the vafc and adjusting you engagement of vtec. that is about it. as long as you have a manual in your posession it shouldnt be difficult at all

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96tegls2dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe a headswap is more than the common joe can handle in your eyes. but to me its all turning bolts. if you can do this install yourself the results are great. i understand what you are saying i just dont think of it as being hard at all. your basically replacing what is already in there and connecting the vtec silenoid to the vafc and adjusting you engagement of vtec. that is about it. as long as you have a manual in your posession it shouldnt be difficult at all</TD></TR></TABLE>

The difficulty lies in the order to which you tighten the bolts on the head, and to what torque spec. rating, as well as, if you bought the right gaskets (can be quite costly, themselves). Also, since you are replacing the Head, you'll need to adjust the timing, or atleast try and maintain factory spec. timing. Good luck trying to do that in your driveway, without proper tools. This is not for the low, medium, average do-it-yourself-er. This is a little bit harder to do.

 

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The difficulty lies in the order to which you tighten the bolts on the head, and to what torque spec. rating, as well as, if you bought the right gaskets (can be quite costly, themselves). Also, since you are replacing the Head, you'll need to adjust the timing, or atleast try and maintain factory spec. timing. Good luck trying to do that in your driveway, without proper tools. This is not for the low, medium, average do-it-yourself-er. This is a little bit harder to do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats all i am saying, i know it can be done.

 

200+ for a head....the d17a2 goes for like 400 for the whole engine if ya play your cards right. the vtec does suck, the d17a2 is VERY slow with it still. just buy a jspec d17a2, save up for low comp. pistons and forged rods. port the head and get a stage 2 cam with valvesprings, get a custom intake manifold made and use a mustang throttle body. port match the exhaust ports to the gasket and slap a turbo on it.....this is the only way to get a d17 great gains and you'll also be out of at least 3k, hehe

 

your talking abou ta $10k build there guy!LOL this guy wasnt looking for boost he was looking for a head. LOL the motor can be had for about $500-600 but a swap is way different than a head swap. and this is complete with intake manifold throttle body. so its literally half the motor!!


Modified by 96tegls2dr at 11:55 AM 7/10/2006

 

please dont take this as rude in any way, but your talking to a weekend mechanic. i am a full time dad and loan officer. my tool box consists of a craftsman rally box and a few air tools. with a good manual and a clear mind this isnt a hard task and can be completed in a short weekend. you are correct setting the timming is a little more difficult but with a manual it isnt that hard. and torquing bolts isnt any harder than tightening them. some people look too hard at things and make them out to be more than they are. i swapped out the whole motor in my teg this weekend with my limited tools. i swapped a b20b in to the bay and it was a jap motor so the oil pump had to be switched over for the crank sensor. that involved me dropping both oil pans while the motor was out. i am not the type of person that looks at theings as being hard if they are involved. as far as i see it its all turning a bolt. a motor cant think for itself so you just have to be smarter than a chnk of metal!! LOL

 

Yeah VTEC pwns. Its a hard upgrade, and you will have a lot of work to do before it is near perfect, b/c perfect is almost impossible. Be prepared for something to go wrong even minor, but if you pull it off then yay 10-15 more hp high-end!

 

just drop the d and go w/ b

 

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Flee the b, its K all the way

 

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:Smacks face in fustration:

Do some research, and youll know WE have gone over this A MILLION times already.

Such as Here.

And Here as well.

Mainly though, Here

 

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:Smacks face in fustration:

Do some research, and youll know WE have gone over this A MILLION times already.

Such as Here.

And Here as well.

Mainly though, Here </TD></TR></TABLE>

LMFAO

 

Im sure I could come up with plenty more.

Why ressurect a thread that has been dead for days, only to post something that has been discussed,

and discussed,

and discussed,

and discussed,

Time and time again? I dont get it! GAR!!!! Even Im an easy going guy, but man it gets fustrating.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Red_EMII &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GAR!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...slims
here is a video of icebergslims 500whp k20a2 turbo EMII, this is what shoudl be done to a 7thgen!!!LOL

 

Holy crap dude. that thing is awesome.

you see his mod list? Wiseco 9:1, walbro pump, 1000cc injectors, FPR, K-Pro, Precision sc61 turbo , and more.

That thing is frickin bad. I love the in car shots.

 

yeah its no slouch that is for sure. he has the car up for sale right now at $19k. we both know how hard it is to get the d series to perform at all. i have an 01 lx at home