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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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ok i have a 93 dx h/b with a jdm b16 the car runs smooth but is not as quick as it should be its gutted to the ***** ans i cant keep up with a 93 teg with a b16 in it on the highway my map is under the wiper cowl some one said that the hose can be to long but i dont think that matters . the only coeds i have are 41 and 1.. but i am going to put a new o2 in to clear the codes but what els could this be please give me any info or things to try my dist.. has to be all the way to the firewall to have any power but the timing marks are all on and no matter where thew dist. is it still runs smooth just has no *****.. what should i try?????????????
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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try fixing codes 1 and 41. your friend will still probably beat you since he has a short geared cable tranny
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 10:43 AM
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a faulty o2 sensor will screw with the engines power. do what advan eg2 recommended.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbo y0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 are supposed to be fast?</TD></TR></TABLE>


LOL!! That gave me a good laugh.

But to answer the OP. What ECU are you running? Before my B16 use to lag alot too due to the fact I was operating my B16 with a P06. Even though it was chipped for B16 it felt slow. When I swapped over to a P2T I notice an increase on HIGH and LOW end power. Even though my B16 is throwing 1st and 2nd O2 sensor code it still runs like a B16 suppose to. Once i get my 2 sensors fix I'll probably gain a little more.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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yes! i don't understand why people dislike the b16? i have a b16A. has 170hp, same as a usdm gsr. though i have no bolt ons (except an air filter), i'm able to stay with majority of people w/swaps. even the ones with a minimum amount of modifications.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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ok i am going to fix the o2 sensor and my ecu is a jdm p30 the little one.. and lol i kno b16s are not that fast but it is not running like it should lol what else can i do??
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philosofy1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes! i don't understand why people dislike the b16? i have a b16A. has 170hp, same as a usdm gsr. though i have no bolt ons (except an air filter), i'm able to stay with majority of people w/swaps. even the ones with a minimum amount of modifications.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I love B16A's so don't take this wrong but, the torque band on a B18C1 gives it a much more powerful bottom end than a B16A.

I'm also guessing because of the displacement, HP band and the fact that the B18C1 doesn't lose as much power through drivetrain as the B16A, explains why a B18C1 USDM will still pull a B16A JDM (170 ps) in third gear and on the freeway.

Again, please don't think I hate B16A's cuz I don't. In all fairness I might actually SELL my GSR swap and get a B16A just because it's so much cheaper. I think the B16A can be a better powerplant when you factor in the near 1 grand difference in cost. That's a full set of bolt ons and even 200-300 on top of that left over for who knows, 50 shot nitrous? Would definitely take a GSR.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 01:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM Pheen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i am going to fix the o2 sensor and my ecu is a jdm p30 the little one.. and lol i kno b16s are not that fast but it is not running like it should lol what else can i do??</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're running a P30 on a 93 EG? Hmmm, what year is your motor? If it's a first generation B16A then that would explain a lot because those have 160 hp, cable transmission requiring a conversion kit and it's possible the down conversion from OBD1 to OBD0 wasn't done correctly, hence the codes being thrown.

P30, if i recall correctly, is the first generation B16A ECU, so if you don't have a first gen, you might want to stick to a chipped P28
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 01:43 PM
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i have a sir 2 hydro swap no conversions on tranny or ecu
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM Pheen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a sir 2 hydro swap no conversions on tranny or ecu</TD></TR></TABLE>

Have you tried asking the DA what he has?

To be honest, part for part you guys should be neck and neck, with you doing the pulling because of the lighter weight.

Either those codes aren't letting your car run right (There's a code that can cut off either the intake or exhaust cam VTEC which would explain you KNOWINg there's VTEC but still ******* on the freeway) or he has mods you don't know about.

Try borrowing a GTECH from a friend and see what you run. If you run low 15's then your car is running fine. If you run high 15's you either suck at driving (NO offense) or there is a problem with your car.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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i did bolth swaps so we bolth have the same mods we bolth have p30s but mine is a small ecu his is a normal one they are 0bd1 because a pr3 is the obdo one but what do you mean about the vtec i hear and feel it but its not that strong but i only have a 1 and 41 code are they bolth os codes what is code one mean ? im not sure about them ????? get back to me please
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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One could be your oil pressure sensor, which nerfs your VTEC, not sure if it would do one cam VTEC with oil pressure sensor gone bad... The other could be your intake 02 sensor which would limit how much air you take in.

I would try running a compression test. Some people have driven B16's for years without knowing they had a bad cylinder, and they were always like "why isn't it as powerful as it should be!?"
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