Hybrid / Engine Swaps Discussions about non-stock engine swaps into Honda cars. This is not a forum for hybrid gas/electric cars.

b16a runs rich and high idle.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 4, 2006 | 11:40 AM
  #1  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default b16a runs rich and high idle.

hey guys, got a few problems on the swap. it seems to be running quite rich....i pull the plugs and theyre pitch black, and the car is trying to idle at 2000 rpm's. does anyone have any suggestions as to why it would run so rich......if i let the car sit for a couple of days, i have to pull the plugs and clean them, or the car will barely start.....on top of that, when i put more than 25 or so miles on it, it wants to misfire under load.....probly from the carbon buildup on the plugs (theres a LOT). theres no MAP codes now, or any other codes that would suggest a fueling/misfire/vacuum problem so i dont know where to start. the swap is in an 89' SI hatch with a pr3 ecu. it runs smooth, just seems to be down on power some and the misfiring problem occurrs under hard load once there is enough buildup on the plugs. ALSO, i still have to wire up the coolant temp sensor....could this play a role?
Reply
Old May 4, 2006 | 12:14 PM
  #2  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

bump for good luck
Reply
Old May 4, 2006 | 12:42 PM
  #3  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

bump for a good f@<k.
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 10:32 AM
  #4  
crxsirvtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
From: Brooklin, on, Canada
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

is the PR3 chipped?
Reply
Old May 5, 2006 | 12:12 PM
  #5  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (crxsirvtec)

the chip i have in it appears to be stock...the writing on the top is green which matches everything else inside the ecu...i was given 2 other chips with the ecu but they have white writing on top and i havent messed w/them yet.

i'm also running an AEBS intake manifold, which doesnt have the iacv (or whatever it is) under the throttle body.

Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 05:24 AM
  #6  
crxsirvtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
From: Brooklin, on, Canada
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

a stock chip will have 38256 as the chip number..

will have all bent up pins, because it was soldered in..

so you have some kind of spoon/mugen program that runs about 30 to 50% more fuel..

i suggest to get a custom one made up..

which i can do
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 12:15 PM
  #7  
category5 SI's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
From: u.s.
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (crxsirvtec)

Are you running both o2 sensors?
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 05:49 PM
  #8  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (category5 SI)

nope just the one near the collector on my DC header. i've been told to switch one for the other, and ive also been told to wire them together.....dunno whats the correct way to do it, and which pins they are on the ecu. i'll check the numbers on the chip.
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 07:21 PM
  #9  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

checked the chip, the numbers match the ones you gave me...its stock, but it is press in, theres no soldering to it. still dont know what to do about the 02 wires. i have a vafc and would like to lean fuel out if it naturally runs rich, but its running way too rich so i know there has to be a problem somewhere.
Reply
Old May 6, 2006 | 07:40 PM
  #10  
crxsirvtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
From: Brooklin, on, Canada
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

what injectors do you have???
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 10:23 AM
  #11  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (crxsirvtec)

stock injectors, 89' SI wiring harness, aem fuel rail and adjustable fpr, aebs intake manifold, pr3 stock chip, dc header. fresh head w/some valvetrain mods but no porting. low mileage motor, block was rebuilt to stock specifications using oem parts only.
Reply
Old May 7, 2006 | 06:00 PM
  #12  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

bump
Reply
Old May 8, 2006 | 03:58 AM
  #13  
crxsirvtec's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
From: Brooklin, on, Canada
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

what is your fuel pressure set at?


you can always lower that to lean it out
Reply
Old May 8, 2006 | 01:34 PM
  #14  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (crxsirvtec)

currently, its set below 40 @ idle.
Reply
Old May 8, 2006 | 06:11 PM
  #15  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

bump
Reply
Old May 9, 2006 | 10:53 AM
  #16  
runeminaEF9's Avatar
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 201
Likes: 0
From: anderson, in, usa
Default Re: b16a runs rich and high idle. (runeminaEF9)

bump...wheres the people with the abnormally huge brains when you need em.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jsg1990
Tech / Misc
7
Aug 5, 2011 04:35 PM
elliott_219
Engine Management and Tuning
2
Aug 21, 2010 12:31 PM
SuM Honda
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
1
Jan 1, 2010 07:29 PM
MilanoCivic97
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
12
Mar 13, 2007 05:50 PM
bennyhonda7
Forced Induction
4
Jun 21, 2005 12:49 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:25 PM.