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Old May 2, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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my srs light came on so i decided to just take out the bulb. in order to reach the bulb on my si cluster i had to take the needle off in order to remove the rpm cardboard **** which the bulb is under. so i pull the needle out, took out the bulb and pushed the needle back in. turned on the car and the needle jumped to 2K at idle when the engine sounded like 1K. i pulled the needle out a bit but this causes the needle to react slow compared to the engine (engine revs high but needle is at low rpm).

i took it out and put it back in and this time it revs with the motor but falls and stop, falls and stop. like if i rev to 5K and drop it the needle falls to 3.5K...stops a sec...and then falls back to 1K. what should i do?
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Old May 2, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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gimme some ideas guys
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Old May 3, 2006 | 03:13 AM
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first off.. the bulb is removed from the back of the cluster. did you remove it from the front ?(front being what faces you)
i would consider trying to pull the needle out and putting it back on. run the car so its warm and while the motor is running put the needle where it normal is.. but in regards to the needle falling you might have messed up that part so new cluster or replacement for that part.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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yea i removed it from the front because that circuit diagram paper **** was on the back. so i took off the rpm face plate instead. i dont know how i could damaged it, i just pulled it out and put it back it.

how hard or soft do you put the needle in? all the way in or leave a little space?
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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i think there is a little space for play. usally you never touch those needles since they tend to break.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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when you put it back on put the needle under the little stick that comes out then when you press the needle all the way in pick up the end of the needle and move it over the little stick..it should be fine then

i hope that wasn't to confusin
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Old May 3, 2006 | 08:24 AM
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You broke it. You can buy a new tachometer unit for the cluster from Honda (it's $78), or you could source a used gauge cluster.

The needles are delicately calibrated and are easy to break. Leave them alone.

And have your SRS system looked at.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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can an si cluster be recalibrated? i have yet to run the car the for more than 1 minute, so i wonder if it will somehow recalibrate itself....

*** the srs, the light is coming on for no reason everythings plugged in. i could care less if a light was there or not to remind me
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Old May 3, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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here's a video to get a better understanding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBsCZSC_HTU

i'm pretty much fucked so i'm in the market for a low mileage cluster after i call honda to see how much it might cost to get this one recalibrated. stupid me...
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Old May 3, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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yep, its broke
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Old May 3, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bow tie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm pretty much fucked so i'm in the market for a low mileage cluster</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's cheaper just to buy a new tachometer unit. Those gauge clusters are in high demand and fetch a lot of money.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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yea i was thinking about getting a tach but what are some good bang for the buck (no cheap stuff) ones. i've heard of autometer but they're right up there with a new cluster.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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A new Honda tach for your gauge cluster is $78 + tax.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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iim confused why did you not remove the bulb normally like everyone else from the back?
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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ooohh my bad dude i was thinking you were talking about aftermarket...lol. anyone know the part number or what honda refers to it as? or do i just ask for an "Si rpm tach/gauge".....?
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">iim confused why did you not remove the bulb normally like everyone else from the back?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i dont know how you guys do it but my si cluster didnt have an access route from the back (if there is one, i couldnt find it) so i went through the front. i can get some pics later
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bow tie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ooohh my bad dude i was thinking you were talking about aftermarket...lol. anyone know the part number or what honda refers to it as? or do i just ask for an "Si rpm tach/gauge".....?</TD></TR></TABLE>
78125-S01-L01
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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the bulb sockets stick out of that "piece of circuit paper" ... they just look like compacitors, u jstu pull 'em out, twist and pull...
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Old May 3, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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hum, i think i took out the right bulb because the light doesnt go on anymore but mine stuck out from on the bottom of this square housing thing you see here. as you can see there's no way to access it from the back

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Old May 3, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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i think i know where the confusion is. Do you know that you can take the whole cluster out of the car with a couple of screws.

To get to the back, where the bulbs are. you have to take the cluster physically out of the car.
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