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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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i just bought 5 lug for my 93 hatch....i thought i was going to be braking on the dime...thats what i thought.... my pedal has to be all the way on the floor for it to brake? ill be chaing my proportional valve 40/40 from a rs this weekend...if i change my master cylinder this weekend will it make my brakes better? do i need to change my booster also? please help i just wasted $1500 on my brakes and my stock *** brakes were better....
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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did u bleed the brake lines?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:01 PM
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bleed the lines again. if that dosnet work pick up a gsr or si prop valve. make sure your lines are secure. maybe pull off all the lines and add some plumbers tape for a good seal.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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Most definitely change your prop valve and your MC to a larger piston. This will cause your brakes to suck if you don't have these.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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it's not the prop valve or the MC... sounds like he didn't bleed it after installation. Even with stock eg pv and mc... you WILL FILL A DIFFERENCE WITH TYPE R Brakes
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R-Lug &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's not the prop valve or the MC... sounds like he didn't bleed it after installation</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, but without the above parts, he won't stop on a dime.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes, but without the above parts, he won't stop on a dime.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not on a dime.. you will definately feel a lot better than before
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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bleed your brakes, then get a type r brake booster
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R-Lug &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not on a dime.. you will definately feel a lot better than before</TD></TR></TABLE>

Of course. He'll need to bleed the lines thoroughly.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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of course i bleed the lines....i bleed them 4 times each side and still nothing....
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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it brakes dont get me wrong but the pedal is so soft and needs to be at the floor to stop...my cx brakes braked harder than these..
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hialeahzbg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it brakes dont get me wrong but the pedal is so soft and needs to be at the floor to stop...my cx brakes braked harder than these..</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you bled them correctly, then your pedal would NOT even be close to the ground!! Did you pour in more brake fluid into the resevoir?? Have you checked to see if there's any in there. I hope you did! Iknow these are dumb questions, but there's NO REASON for your pedal to even be close to the floor

The reason why I said that you'll definately feel a difference without the MC and PV is because I ran 5lug without for awhile and the braking was still bad ***.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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yea there was 3 people...one in the car pumping...one pouring fluid and one bleeding them and we went around 4 times...
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hialeahzbg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea there was 3 people...one in the car pumping...one pouring fluid and one bleeding them and we went around 4 times...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Okay, come to think of it. I think that your MC is going out. Either your MC or slave cylinder. If your pedal is going down like that. CHeck them out
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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i have a brand new itr master cylinder but i dont have the booster? besides the dealer can i get a booster at a autozone or discount? how much are they usually?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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bleed the damn thing and you will be fine.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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ill put the proportional valve and master cylinder and bleed again and i will let u guys know...
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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soon find out...
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Old Apr 28, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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i have gsr brakes on a cx ek and they stop great with the stock mc and proportion valve you should be fine if you bleed them good
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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theres a huge difference between gsr and type r....
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Old Apr 29, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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need to upgrade brake booster(optional, but recommended) & master cyclinder (you can get one from a gsr integra)
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