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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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My brother wants me to ask you guys this, would running a nitrous spray bar on a boosted ITR with stock internals be fatal?? i think that he should just stay boost tell he gets a lil bottom end work dont i.e. pistons + rods. THANKS GUYS ONCE AGAIN!
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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If his plan is to blow his motor so he can rebuild it, then he is on the right path.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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but out thoughts were that if he just runs a spray bar it wont put much strees on the motor cuz its not being injected..makes sense in a way maybe im wrong
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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I just called a shop Turbo Technologies and they said that it would benifit me more to run a spray bar more so then if i wasnt. He also said that it doesnt add any more pressure in my cylinders. This makes sense being its actually coolin the charge air, and therefor its less likely to pre-detonate.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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turbo.. stock motor, ehh thats fine.

now add nitrous.. ohhhhhh man. your askn for it
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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Its a Ntercooler kit.. It's just a spray bar. How is cooling your charge air going to blow your motor? thats like if you eat to much, youll starve to death? lol
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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if you only use a spray bar thats fine but no wet shot and for sure no dry shot. The first thing to go would be the rings. Personal experience
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Well thats what i was saying to man. I know he wouldnt want it injected, he wants a spray bar. So whys your story changing now?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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are you talking about spraying nitrous to cool down the intercooler? or spraying nitrous to add more oxygen.. maybe i'm not reading it right.. but.. nitrous to cool down intercooler should help.. not necessary IMO, i'm not sure if it can change a/f dramatically but it will cool down charge temp.

now, for running turbo + nitrous, i don't see the need unless you making tons of hp and want more low end because of big turbo.. or... turbo can't make anymore boost and you want additional hp.. but i would upgrade turbo instead of messing with both nitrous + turbo
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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if you cool the intercooler with the N20 "spray bar", you are cooling the intake charge, making the air more dense, and finally making the car run more lean. <u>depending on how the car is running now (how lean or rich it is)</u> will determine how much this "mod" will help or possibly hurt the performance, and potentially destory the motor.

I hope your using a wideband. If not, I hope you know how to "read" plugs.

IMO, I would worry more about properly tuning the turbo setup rather than try to add another "power adder". if you arent making enough power, get a different turbo and tune it.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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as of now we did make a lil adjustment when we were tuning..we tuned for 8psi and we are running 7psi daily, so in actuality we are running rich..so would running the spray bar be safe? what im saying is if we did run the spray bar and did use it would it actually make it run idealy stoich?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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honestly, you obviously dont know what you are doing. HOW do you know you are rich? Why would you think that stoich is best? especially on a turbo setup? you are aware that even the STOCK ITR ECU is very much on the rich side right?
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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like i said before..im 15 and im posting this for my brother being that he is at school..im still a n00b and i did search this stuff..lol..thats why i am now asking you guys..
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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you didnt answer my questions.
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clip the apex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honestly, you obviously dont know what you are doing. HOW do you know you are rich? Why would you think that stoich is best? especially on a turbo setup? you are aware that even the STOCK ITR ECU is very much on the rich side right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

we are running a lil rich cuz we do had the tuner tell us that our a/f was like 13.1 or something like that i cant remeber..no i didnt know that the stock ecu was a lil rich..thanx for the info!
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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13:1 on a turbo setup isnt exactly rich
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 01:52 PM
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ok..well i thought the ideal a/f ratio was like 12.6..hm..maybe im wrong.BUT IM STILL A N00B!!!
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Old Apr 27, 2006 | 02:01 PM
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oh F**K, i might be wrong!! dont hold me to it! ill ask my brother when he gets out of his PTAP class

i wish i wasnt a noob
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