Today I installed a new Unorthodox Racing kevlar clutch & PP.

Went to start the car and the clutch pedal sank. I pumped it a few times, stuck to the floor.

Checked the slave cylinder and realized I must not have lined it up correctly. Put it back on and started to bleed the system. Ran out of fluid in the resivoir, refilled it and continued to bleed the system, refilling the resivoir as it was needed.

Finally got some pressure to build up (still felt weak, like stock or softer.)

Pulled the car out of the garage with no problems, took it down my friend's street, parked it. Went to leave (It was 10:30PM, I have class tomorrow ) and it was a little rough getting into gear. Went down the street, made a left, stopped at a stopsign, went through the stopsign and continued on my way home. Not beating on the clutch or anything AT ALL.

Revs just started to go up and there was no clutch what-so-ever.

I can put the car into 1st-5th without the clutch pedal, but the car goes no-where. It grinds if I try to put it into reverse with or without the clutch.

Does this sound like a bad slave (mine popped apart when it was assembed wrong, I thought I assembed it correctly), slave needs to be bled, or did I probably glaze my clutch?

 

reassemble slave cylinder correctly and bleed it again.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lord Helmet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">reassemble slave cylinder correctly and bleed it again. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll definately try that first thing tomorrow:

My hands are killing me and I smell orangish (took a shower with GOJO.)

I hope to god that's all it is. If I glazed that plate or I have to drop the transmission again I'm going to go ape ****.

Retarded question, but you know where that black rubber piece goes on the top of the transmission, the vent or whatever. Can you add tranny fluid through there?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nota-eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Retarded question, but you know where that black rubber piece goes on the top of the transmission, the vent or whatever. Can you add tranny fluid through there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, easiest route and cleaner then the factory location on the hex bolt on the side of tranny.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lord Helmet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, easiest route and cleaner then the factory location on the hex bolt on the side of tranny. </TD></TR></TABLE>

*sigh of relif* I'd feel really shitty if I ruined a $400 clutch by putting oil in the wrong spot.

I think what we're going to do tomorrow is bleed the slave cylinder for awhile, if that doesn't fix it maybe replace the slave cylinder.

I wonder if a 1st and 2nd gear pull would have caused it to glaze/get eaten away. The clutch surface is really soft, so I don't think it would glaze.

edit: This is the exact clutch: http://www.unorthodoxracing.co...evlar

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nota-eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I wonder if a 1st and 2nd gear pull would have caused it to glaze/get eaten away. The clutch surface is really soft, so I don't think it would glaze.

edit: This is the exact clutch: http://www.unorthodoxracing.co...evlar</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you haven't gotten use to the feel of the clutch, it is easy to glaze it by riding on the clutch too long.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lord Helmet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you haven't gotten use to the feel of the clutch, it is easy to glaze it by riding on the clutch too long. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm. I drove it like it was a stock clutch.

I read their website and it said that for the first 100 or so miles it will slip, but there's no way it can slip that much. With the car immobile it'll never get 100 miles on it.

 

maybe it might be ur axle, it might not be all the way in.
i just install my clutch and i have the same problem,

 

UPDATE: It seems to be the throw-out bearing/lever that goes from the TO bearing to the slave cylinder.

It moves freely, but it stays right around the middle of the transmission, and when the pedal is pressed it goes to the passengerside, which releases. It seems like it needs to go all the way to the driverside of the bay to engage the clutch, which it won't do.

We've got the transmission back off the car and we're looking everything over, trying to find some stupid mistake or something that'll fix this damned thing.

 

There is something wrong with the TO bearing or the fork that's connected to it.

For some reason it'll go to the passengerside (disengage clutch) but won't return (engages clutch). I have no idea what's wrong with it so I don't know where to begin to trouble-shoot/fix things so I'm going to have to take it to a shop. If anyone has any ideas as to what it is please feel free to post.

If I have to take it to a shop I'll take them my spare transmission (45 minutes away from here ) and I'll let everyone know what it turns out to be.

-Nick

 

Just had the same thing happen to me yesterday!!! SWEET.... seriously try and diagnos and fix it yourself... saves a **** load of money. I am also going to do the same thing... have a look at the slave cyl., the axles and make sure that its not one of those before I condem the clutch... my clutch is an exedy stage 1 with only 20k highway miles on it...

 

You know you're not supposed to run out of fluid in the reservoir right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondainspired &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just had the same thing happen to me yesterday!!! SWEET.... seriously try and diagnos and fix it yourself... saves a **** load of money. I am also going to do the same thing... have a look at the slave cyl., the axles and make sure that its not one of those before I condem the clutch... my clutch is an exedy stage 1 with only 20k highway miles on it... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I just got a brand new slave cylinder.

I don't think it has anything to do with the hydrolics, but it's the actual transmission itself. The fork that the TOB is connected to doesn't want to return on its own like it should.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fast88std &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know you're not supposed to run out of fluid in the reservoir right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, yeah I know. We filled it back up and continued to bleed the system.

We're going to finish reassembly tomorrow and see what we can do with it, but right now I'm going to go chill with some friends, do a little drinking, and forget about my damned car problems.

 

Well, I looked through the manual last night and the best response I could get from the troubleshooting part of my Haynes manual was that it may take 30-40 starts to get the clutch to seat right.

That doesn't seem right because it worked at first, and then it stopped working.

The bitch is on a trailer waiting on word from a family friend that his shop is open (new shop, they're opening midweek), I'll have my friend tow it down there and they'll fix it. Hope to have it back by this weekend.

To me it seems that the input shaft might be getting crooked because the TOB and TOB fork move fine when the tranny's off, but put it on and it's retarded. I don't know why it'd be crooked, though. I used a clutch alignment tool and my two big friends helped line the transmission up, slide it on, and then bolted it all up.

 

Alright, got the car back from the shop a few days ago. Turns out I had put the spring that goes on the TOB fork on correctly, so it wasn't rotating on the ball correctly.

Stupid error (I knew it was), but it's now fixed.

-Nick

 

bleed your clutch im having a problem to i just changed my axels anyway now im having this problem at high rpm i can push my clutch and its like nothing happens rpm stay like if i never even push the cluth in help??????????????