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what are some MAJOR engine installments that i need before i even think about getting a turbo kit???

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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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thx for any help i have a d16y7 engine. i just installed a short ram-air intake the other day. I know i need more parts for my engine before i would just be an idiot and go out and buy a turbo kit.... there was also this guy at autozone the other day that said my engine would blow easy if i installed a turbo on my engine. i just want a small turbo kit. im just looking to make around 180-220hp safely. without doing an engine swap. thx everybody
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Well first, the intake isnt going to do you much good with a turbo kit (except that u can use it as charge piping). As far as engine prep goes, just do a leak down and compression test and you may want to replace things such as your water pump, timing belt, etc. Basically if your motor is in good condition and you do the regular tune-ups, youll be fine to boost. I have 140k on my d16y8 and its boosted @ 7psi daily driver (stock internals). As far as piecing together your kit.. try here.. http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo....html
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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so i should take it to a mechanic and have him take a look at it. to see and make sure everything is perfect if not better. and what about rpm levels im guessing if i gas it i should go like what 500rpms below the redline so i dont blow anything
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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it really depends on how much you are wanting to boost...on your stock engine you should be ok at like 5-6 psi
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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oh and i planned on getting this off of ebay. but i have never used ebay before so im not sure. if i should try it or not.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XS-Fu...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big-cat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so i should take it to a mechanic and have him take a look at it. to see and make sure everything is perfect if not better. and what about rpm levels im guessing if i gas it i should go like what 500rpms below the redline so i dont blow anything</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you can shift that fast. my friend had a nice setup on his z6 and it ran like a champ. it had at least 140xxx miles but he did it the right way.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sk8shorty012 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well first, the intake isnt going to do you much good with a turbo kit (except that u can use it as charge piping). As far as engine prep goes, just do a leak down and compression test and you may want to replace things such as your water pump, timing belt, etc. Basically if your motor is in good condition and you do the regular tune-ups, youll be fine to boost. I have 140k on my d16y8 and its boosted @ 7psi daily driver (stock internals). As far as piecing together your kit.. try here.. http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo....html</TD></TR></TABLE>

i would do what he said ^^
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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say i do 5-6 psi. what do u think the ranges of hp and tq i would possibly get??? thx for the help as well i really do appreciate it
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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with 5-6 psi i say anywhere from 140-160 if its done right. (someone correct me if im wrong. 7-8 psi maybe 20 more hp. now thats with fuel management and make sure again its properly done.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Heres the thing with the ebay kit you posted...those kits are ****. Wait...they are worse then ****. Stay far far away. As for if you motor will be able to handle boost it will if its in decent condition. If you (and I mean you not some mechanic at the local honda dealer. You need to learn this if you want to run a turbo) do a compression and leakdown test and the numbers are good and your up to date on your preventive matience you will be good to go. I like Honda-Tech and all and there are some smart people here, but I perfer this site. http://www.turbod16.com Check it out.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with 5-6 psi i say anywhere from 140-160 if its done right. (someone correct me if im wrong. 7-8 psi maybe 20 more hp. now thats with fuel management and make sure again its properly done. </TD></TR></TABLE>Seems close to me. I made 188 whp on 8.5 psi with an Apexi kit.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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ok so i will deff learn how to do all of that stuff. but what is wrong with the turbo i posted. like i belive u but how??? and what are some good turbo kits for the d series engines
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big-cat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so i will deff learn how to do all of that stuff. but what is wrong with the turbo i posted. like i belive u but how??? and what are some good turbo kits for the d series engines</TD></TR></TABLE>

Id stay away from buying a "kit", theyre either crap (ebay) or expensive (anywhere from $2000-$3000). What most ppl do, and my recommendation to you, would be to piece together your own kit. Thats why I posted the link that I did above (second post). It shows exactly what parts you need to make a "complete kit" that costs alot less. Then when you know what parts you need, search classifieds all around and just slowing buy part by part until you get them all, then install it. You can piece together a more complete kit than the pre-put-together ones for half the price. Plus, when you do it yourself, you learn from it.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 04:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big-cat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so i will deff learn how to do all of that stuff. but what is wrong with the turbo i posted. like i belive u but how??? and what are some good turbo kits for the d series engines</TD></TR></TABLE>The kit you posted is also know as SSAutoChrome. Search and you will see what is wrong with these kits. The mani's are know to crack, the turbo's are know to eat themselves, so on and so on. About the only kit I like is the Edelbrock ( and my Apexi )and anyone living in Cali I recommend one to, but just like sk8shorty012 said "kits are expensive". I would also recommend you take your time learning what you need and slowly peice together your own kit. Thats one thing I wish I would have done.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 04:16 AM
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I've been at 9 lbs for years on a y7 motor. You need a y8 intake mani and injectors, and that's honestly all I had done for a while.

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:58 AM
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as said before, u will want to check compression and leakdown incase u have any internal problems starting like bad rings or headgasket, etc.

If your motor isnt in the greatest shape, do i mild rebuild. New gaskets, seals, oil change, plugs, wires, etc and get the motor running strong before boost.

our d-series are known for headlifts under boost with a stock highmileage motor. this can be taken care of with new headbolts, i recomment ARP but i do not know if their is an application for your motor.

tuneing is KEY!!! do it right the first time or dont do it at all. save up and piece together or buy a kit (greddy, apexi) and buiilt off of it. Like the greddy kit doesnt have an intercooler/piping and runs bad fuel management. Use crome/uberdata/neptune/hondata/aem ems for tuning. And get it done by someone who knows what they are doing. someone who is credible ya know??

And yes a y7 motor is good for boost, but not the ideal motor. I believe it is one of the toothpick motors as in the rods are very thin and do not like to see more then 200-250 hp. Somewhere into the 12-15psi range. But many stock internals can see up to 300 hp and even 400 on stock sleaves. So you should be fine with a small psi, like 5-7 lbs.

goodluck and happy boosting
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:09 AM
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and if worst comes to worst, you can buy another motor for very cheap. if you really want to go all out on this, you should buy another engine and build it up on the side. if not, by it just in case and look and see how it will work. for us D guys, turbod16.com is the best resource. learn how turbo's work, ie, how they take in air, push air, why you need more fuel, what is fuel management, what turbo is good for your power goal, what parts you need, how to set it up. you may also want to go to a couple turbo installs of your friends or fellow members on the board. if you see one of the turbo guys on the board in person, ask about their setup, where stuff goes and so forth. for my setup, i built a custom around the greddy turbo. Research is like 75% of the process, installing parts is like 10% and the other 15% is making sure youre running right, like tuning, maintence and such.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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Biggest things to get before you get a kit are to get injectors and some sort of EMS, be it AEM (overkill in your situation), Hondata, or Crome.

Hondata is a good program, but it could be considered "expensive".

For Crome you would need a OBD conversion harness and a chipped P28 ECU. Other than the ECU and harness Crome is free.

PSI has little to do with how much you can boost. On the stock MAP sensor you can only run around 11-12psi (that's as high as it can read until you get something like a GM 3bar.) It's more or less HP that breaks stuff.

I'm currently running 12psi daily on my bone stock D16Z6, but I'm running a very small turbo (TD04 14G, comparable in size to a T25.) I managed a 14.7@97mph at the track this weekend.
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