Boost creep/spike/smth: Tial WG 44mm.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 05:26 AM
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Default Boost creep/spike/smth: Tial WG 44mm.

Hey Fellow H-T's,

I have an build b16 with t3/60-1 turbo. Currently @ 7.4 psi @ 267whp. See my setup @ http://www.cjperformance.com

My tial wg has a 0.5 bar spring. But after looking @ my datalogs i see that 7500rpm> my boost creeps up to 8.1 psi.

-full-race manifold(prostreet).
-tial wg 44mm.
-My dumptube is besides my exhaust till after my block.(no exhaust gasses in my engine bay)
-3" downpipe
-2.5" exhaust
-Vacume hose comes from edelbrock mani to an 3 way spilt.
>1 going to my wastegate
>1 going to my bov(backdoor IC)
>1 going to a boost solenoid which is disconnected)

I can try to remove boost solenoid and then put a 2 way spillter just wg and bov.
But i like to hear comments what could be the problem

Thanks

CJ


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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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I wouldnt worry about the small creep you are having as long as the car is tuned. What boost controller are you using?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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I'm coding one for p28/p38/p72. Just like H*nd*t* k-pro. clean and simple.
But with higher boost I have bigger creeps.

CJ
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Boost creep/spike/smth: Tial WG 44mm. (calvinPGMFI)

What you are explaining sounds pretty normal at low boost. Just tune for it up top, you wont have a problem.

But if you are having the exact same issue at higher boost you might have another issue.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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yea even really large wastegates will have trouble with boost creep if you have a larger turbo thats on low psi since so much exhaust is diverted through it instead of the turbine.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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Calvin, That's a pretty normal creep for a setup like yours. I wouldn't worry to much about it. One more reason I'm not crazy about the wastegate placement of most of the turbo manifolds being used.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MindEracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One more reason I'm not crazy about the wastegate placement of most of the turbo manifolds being used.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What would optimal placement be for a wastegate?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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With a ram horn manifold, the only way to totaly eliminate low boost creep is to run 1 really big gate or 2 gates, if there was an optimal wg placement on a ram horn manifold low boost creep on a efficient turbo setup wouldn't be a problem.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by XES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What would optimal placement be for a wastegate?</TD></TR></TABLE>
As explained above.. I love your lude..

I don't wan't to jack Calvin's thread, but here is a short thread on the subject of ram horn vs sidewinder wastegate placement: http://forums.evans-tuning.com...ight=


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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:56 PM
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thanks.
Iwill test @ higher boost levels.

CJ
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