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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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i could not find anything on Nitrous Oxide on here so i was wondering if it would be okay to start one. i'm trying to best understand how it works and what it does exactly. so, let me start off with these questions.

what is the difference between a wet and a dry kit? which one is more productive? which one gives the bigger boost? which one will kill the engine faster?

what brand/company/model of Nitrous Oxide kit/setup works best and why?
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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you cannot find info on nitrous kit?

holy batman, half of h-t uses n20/nawzzz

DID YOU SEARCH? HUH?
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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» Search Results

Your search for n2o returned 180 results.


» Search Results

Your search for nitrous returned 88 results.
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Yup, search for nitrous and read up on some threads.

What car are you considering installing a nitrous system on? Year, manual or auto, etc....
What are your goals with the car?

To start with a few of your questions.....wet kit > dry kits (although slightly more expensive) for maximum power and efficiency. Zex, NOS, and Nitrous Express all produce a quality system.
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 08:50 PM
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Every time I read up on Nitros, I start laughing Histerically.....
When we speak of Nitro-methane; are we speaking of high performance cow farts??
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iam7head &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you cannot find info on nitrous kit?

holy batman, half of h-t uses n20/nawzzz

DID YOU SEARCH? HUH?</TD></TR></TABLE> for nitrous oxide it gave me a 0 response.

i swear to you when i searched
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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at least in the accord boards
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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the just search for "nitrous"
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Well, since nobody answered your questions, I"ll take a stab at it. I'm at work and bored out of my mind, so it'll be long..

what is the difference between a wet and a dry kit?

A wet kit has fuel along w/the nitrous.
A dry kit does not.
All the high HP kits are 'Wet".

which one is more productive?
A wet system, IMO. I belive the biggest dry kit you can get is 300 hp. I think everything past that are fogger systems.

which one gives the bigger boost?

A wet system. Actually, Fogger nitrous kits are the best. It's something like fuel injection. Most system are whats called "Plate" Systems that either under the carb and acts like a carb spacer (in older cars) or between the intake piping and the intake manifold. A fogger system has little injectors that inject the fuel and nitrous directly into the cylinder. It has better atomization and delivers more power. Like I said earlier, all high HP nitrous kits are fogger. You either have to buy a special intake manifold that has nitrous bungs already built into it or you have to drill and tap yourself.

which one will kill the engine faster?

Any of them will if you don't take the proper precautions and/or are an idiot. There are lots and lots of good books on nitrous and I suggest you buy one or DL as much info as you can on them. I know when I got my first nitrous system, I bought a book from NOS and it told me everything I needed to know, such as never let a friend drive your car w/the bottle hooked up ( I wonder why?)

what brand/company/model of Nitrous Oxide kit/setup works best and why?

Thats up to you. I ran a NOS Powershot (50-150 hp) for years on my Ranger. Now, I have an Edelbrock kit, adjustabe from 50-250 hp. Theres 150 jets in now if you care, had 175 but it's too much for the street. Much better design than the original NOS system I had. It's a wet plate system also.

If you just wanting a lil more umph, I'd just go w/a Zex kit. They are controlled electronically and have a few safety features that are pretty nifty. Venom also makes an electronic kit. I belive these are dry kits, but I'm not 100%.
As far as how much you can hit your car with: some pple say 100 hp is the max, others 75 on a stock 4 banger. I personally woudl'nt go more than 50 on my Accord, but thats me.
Just be sure to have, as a rule, 2 step colder plugs (NGK are what NOS reccomends) premium gas and I tinker w/the timing (has to be retarded a couple of degrees).

A few other things though you want to consider is a bottle warmer. You have to heat the bottle for it to build pressure (900-950 lbs is optimum). Also a purge valve to clear the line of any air as well as get the nitrous to the solenoid. Then you have nitrous controllers if you get serious, that allow you to launch at a lower hp and it increases at whatever rate till you get to your max.

There are also automatic bottle openers so you don't have to manually turn it on.

Then you have to have the bottles filled. Depending on how much is left in my bottle, it cost anywhere from $30-$45 to get it filled. Thats the factor that dissuades alot of pple from nitrous.

I can't say how many times a 50 shot would last. I know w/150 shot I get maybe 2 0-60's and 2-3 full runs. usually (1) 0-60 and (2) full 1/4 runs. When I had the 100 hp jets, ehh, (6) 1/4 miles and maybe a couple 0-60's.

Wow, I'm wordy.
Hope that gives you a lil more insight than just "search".


Though, I did enjoy the high performance cow farts remark &lt;chuckles&gt;
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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to mac_24_seven
A couple quick things to add...

-I run a 55 shot in my Accord and that lasts about ten 1/4 mile passes.

-If you run an automatic transmission, make sure you do not spray through shifts. Either use a push button activation system or, if using a wide open throttle activation system, use a window switch so that the nitrous system does not spray at your rpm shift intervals.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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Thats right.. They have a lil deal thats on the clutch so when it's depressed, you can't be spraying.

I can't say how the lil ZEX kits are activated, but I know on my truck theres a microswitch connected to the carb that when the pedal is completely depressed, it hits the switch and activated the nitrous.
I have an auto but it's built for it and it doesnt have overdrive.

Also, an ignition system w/a rev limiter would be good: You dont wanna miss a gear then spray. Your lil accord would shoot to 9 grand and you'd get to see what the inside of your engine looked like.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Group A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
isnt methane(cow farts) and nitrous oxide two diferent things?...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Very different
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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i would always run a wet shot just to be safe
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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this might sound like a stupid question, but could you run nitrous oxide in a turbocharged car?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FallenAngelHIM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this might sound like a stupid question, but could you run nitrous oxide in a turbocharged car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes


Good write up mac_24_seven
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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is the wet kit the one that you spray through the intake pipe? how does the dry kit work it's way into the engine? there's someone on 6thgenaccord.com selling a wet kit and says he will include the AEM punctured because it sprays through the intake?
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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FallenAngelHIM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the wet kit the one that you spray through the intake pipe? how does the dry kit work it's way into the engine? there's someone on 6thgenaccord.com selling a wet kit and says he will include the AEM punctured because it sprays through the intake?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have always been under the impression that DRY kit is where it's sprayed into the intake...WET kit when it's into the fuel via the fuel rail. And DIRECT PORT, when it's sprayed directly into the intake manifold.

So I would say that he is describing/selling a dry kit; not a wet kit.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 03:07 AM
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^^ nah


wet and dry both go through your intake
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 04:03 AM
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Thanks.
Like anything, you learn crap the more your around it.

Another lil tip that you have to take into consideration is, by and large, you will make more HP than the jets you have in.

I've seen dyno's on mustang s w/a 100 shot that was, in fact, adding around 130 hp.. I can't remember the torque though. I remember talking about this w/some friends.

So just because you have 50 hp jets in your setup, doesn't mean you'll make EXACTLY 50 hp.. You may make a lil more. And the higher the shot, the more your likely hp to make
I know in my truck, goin from 150 hp to 175 is like night and day. Though it's just through the uber accurate butt dyno, it feels like a whole heluva lot more than just 25 hp. But we all know how accurate butt dyno's are

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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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so which is the one that sprays with fuel. and which is the one that hits only one cylinder or hits them randomly. and which is the one that hits all cylinders equally?
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Buy Wildman's kit
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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also dont listen to the guy who says that you'l get more hp than what the pill says thats bs
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