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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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Default SOHC VTEC head swap, need parts and help!!! please.

i am putting a d16z6 head (1994 civic si, got the # off head) on my 94 del sol. All i have is the head i need a valve cover, hint hint anybody have one???.

ok so what 'I' think is.......... is you put the head on with a vtec head gasket, vtec timing belt, and get a vtec controller and use stock ECU? am i wrong?

Please tell me what i need to do this the cheapest. ex:gaskets, belt, ecu?, controller.

thanx.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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you dont need a vafc
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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why dont i need a vtec controller, that means i need a vtec ECU yeah?
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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you need a p28 regardless, you could convert a p06 but its not worth it...
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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so who has a p28 and a sohc valve cover, and one of my friends was talking about he has hondatech or sumthin like that and that he can make my ecu vtec compatable.

so who has p28 and sohc valve cover?
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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i have a valve cover...
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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what do you want for it? and where are you at, how much for shipping to 95969?
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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you mean hondata...
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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yeah hondata, thats the one, lol, he said he could make my ecu vtec compatable, and he can make my ecu anyway i want it, is that better than a p28?
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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depends, if he can burn ecu's, or if he has a unti(s100,s200,2300) that he is selling, youd be better off buying a chipped and socketed ecu, p28, can run hondata,crome,uberdata, neptune, whatever for about 150 off of the sponsor foroums
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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i say just go with uberdata or crome cheeper and it works fine
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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You'll need a P28 and you'll need to run/connect the wires to your VTEC solenoid.

No use in getting a chipped ECU unless you plan on doing any real tuning.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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heres my advice, do it right, and do it right the first time. dont fu ck around or cut corners, if you dont have money for all the **** you need, set your project aside for awhile until you have all of what you need. i did the mini me and it wasn't worth it at all, i would of been much happier spending an extra $300-400 and going turbo.

if your not gonna go turbo, then you may or maynot want to raise your compression. if you do, get a Y8 gasket, if you want to retain stock compression just use a Z6 gasket.

DONT FORGET TO PULL THE OIL JET BETWEEN PISTONS 2 & 3.

Use a D16Z6 timing belt. i was told that the mini me throws off the timing by a half tooth, not much but an adjustable cam gear is optional. skunk2 or megan are my personal preference.

Your gonna need a top end gasket kit most likely too, you would be suprised how many gaskets you will need. the whole kit costs like $90 i think. i just went to honda everytime i noticed that something needed a gasket and got it from them. that costed me like $50

Pics of my mini-me are in my sig if you want to see some before and after pics.

Good luck

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Default Re: SOHC VTEC head swap, need parts and help!!! please. (bmw626)

so i do have to use a head gasket for a vtec head, what is the diff between vtec and non? still need a cover and ECU.

thanx for all the info.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Default Re: SOHC VTEC head swap, need parts and help!!! please. (solpower)

yea, you need to go buy a vtec gasket. you have two choices, a d16z6 gasket or a d16y8 gasket. the y8 gasket in thinner thus bumping your compression. if you bump compression, you will make like 3-5% more power but you will need to running higher octane gas and it puts added stress on the motor... not alot though...

also the y8 gasket is metal which means its reusable
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmw626 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also the y8 gasket is metal which means its reusable </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good advice except for that last part. I thought all OEM headgaskets were metal. The Y8 is just 2 ply as opposed to the 3 ply Z6 gasket (and about 1/2 the cost.)

Honda gaskets are "Crush type" gaskets or something like that, which means the head gasket has to be replaced everytime the headbolts/studs come off.

Look for ricey mcricerton or bauleycivic's minime write up.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:53 PM
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Default Re: SOHC VTEC head swap, need parts and help!!! please. (bmw626)

sweet thanx for the info, im just going to go with the z6 gasket, all i want is vtec never had it b4, i know its overated on sohc but whatever, im bored and have nothing to do, lol.


still need valve cover, and ECU, thanx.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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well if your bored and have nothing to do, come work on my car, lol

valve cover & ECU, look around on ebay
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Default Re: SOHC VTEC head swap, need parts and help!!! please. (bmw626)

lol, if you lived in paradise i would prolly help you with it, i know alot about hondas, just never done a mini me B4, have a good one.

already been looking on ebay, thanx anyway.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Default Re: SOHC VTEC head swap, need parts and help!!! please. (solpower)

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=554053 - Teh Mini-me bible

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1315461 - Why you should turbo your SOHC and not do a Mini-Me
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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I've got a virgin p28 ecu if you still need one.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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yes, was hoping for a stock (yes, vergin) ECU so i could do all other stuff with hondata at my buddy's, how much do you think you want for the p28?.

thankyou.
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