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Progress on BAR'ing my car.

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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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Default Progress on BAR'ing my car.

Ok so I don't post much on here but I figured I'd just put a post down for the progress that I currently am having with getting my recently aquired hatch bar'd. So I bought the hatch almost 2 months ago with a gsr motor in it running on a si ecu where as those of you know will not pass bar because the ecu is the incorrect one. Last week I purchased the connectors to my p72 and cut off the si connectors on the engine harness and rewired the whole harness into my gsr connectors for the p72. 30 hours or so later all the wiring had been completed and it was time to take it out for a drive. The minute the car was started we noticed the tach wasn't working (Minor problem but nothing big). After becoming frustrated over looking through diagram after diagram finally a location to tap into was found and the tach now works. To date the car is working throwing no codes and is california "Visually" legal. I plan to test smog it next week just to see what kind of numbers I'm actually putting out and depending on the results I hope to have it bar'd by the end of February. Now even through all these ordeals I still have a question to those that have been through this. What can I do to increase my chances of passing the sniffer part of the process? Are there any cleaning additives or techniques I can use to reduce my emissions output to help furthur increase my chance of getting this done on a one time deal? I hopefully will also be painting the car soon aswell.

-Garrett
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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Default Re: Progress on BAR'ing my car. (iwannaboostmyteg)

Make sure your running the correct ecu and all your lines are hooked up.

Clean off all your sensors and make sure there all correctly routed.

Get a pretest (they usually cost 20 bucks) and see what those say. If you have no problems with them just go to the ref. If you have problems then start fixing with what the printout says.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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i thought you couldnt get your car BAR'ed if you went with a bigger liter engine?
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 11:06 PM
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The rules of the Bar are as follows:

1. Motor must be of the same year or newer then the cars manufactered year.
2. All stock emmisions, vac lines, and sensors must be connected.( Basically it must be as it was when it came on a gsr from factory). (exemptions are aem intakes with carb sticker or any other mod with a legal carb sticker)
3. Car must pass a visual inspection aswell as a smog test.

Thats pretty much the jist of the process from what I've read on dmv sites etc. I have everything connected and I am running the stock 99 gsr ecu (p72 obd2a) my car is a 99 ek hb and the motor is a 99 b18c1 so by physical requirements I have met them. Now I just have to do a test smog and then hopefully the numbers show up good so that I can make my appointment and get that sticker.

-Garrett
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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I'm really glad we don't have those issues in wa state
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurboEKcoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought you couldnt get your car BAR'ed if you went with a bigger liter engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes you can... just cant use like a b20 because thats considered a light truck and would be considered as a downgrade in emissions.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Progress on BAR'ing my car. (iwannaboostmyteg)

#1. set your ignition timing to 14 btdc, it will give you the best chance to pass nox emissions...
#2 run on 91 octane gas,
#3 if your engine is obd2...make sure all your monitors(readiness) have passed and with no mil on,
#4 get a good or even new honda cat.
#5 valve adjustment, new spark plugs, dist. cap and rotor, spark plug wires, oil change
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Progress on BAR'ing my car. (egtwincam)

also remeber that you need a usdm exhaust manifold or carb approved gsr header. but usuall the cleaner the engine bay looks the less time they spend under the hood looking for problems.

passing the sniffer test should be the least of your problems. just do a good tune up before you go. plugs, wires, cap, rotor, oil change, maybe a fuel filter, and o2 sensor. then run some "guanarntee smog pass" that you get at like autozone.
then the day of the test drive the crap out of the car for at least 30-45 minutes before the test, and when you get there do not turn the car off. the hotter the car the better that catalytic converter works
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