i just bought a 2-piece CAI on eBay and saw somewhere that I can run it as a short ram, and i am wondering, since i live in Memphis, TN where it can get pretty cold in the winter and hot/humid as hell in the summer, would i be better off running it as a short ram or trying it as a CAI? In other words... i just want what will more likely be more efficient for a 2000 Accord Dx, thanks in advance for the help!

 

i think trying it as a CAI would probably give you the best performance. but if it isnt that hard change between the two and see which works best. i dont think there will be a noticeable difference though.

 

Run it as a short ram during the winter months, and add the additional C/A component for the summer.
There are distinct disadvantages to having air which is too cold circulating thru the Throttle Body (It's called Icing)

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alrighty, sounds pretty good to me. im sure it wont be too hard to switch out after i get the stock air-intake stuff removed. thanks for the help.

 

I run mine as a short ram because of fear of water getting in it. We have been getting a lot of snow and rain lately. If you don't get much rain and arn't worried and don't want to go through drive through car washs I'd put the CAI on.

 

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There are distinct disadvantages to having air which is too cold circulating thru the Throttle Body (It's called Icing)

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I have never heard of air that is "too cold" running through the throttle body...especially when nitrous running through the intake (which in turn will make its way through the throttle body) runs at about -50 to -100 degrees centigrade depending on the shot of nitrous...this is how nitrous works, by cooling the intake charge to temperatures which make the air so dense that it's similar to running boost (similar number of oxygen molecules in a certain volume of space as a mild boost application)...I have never heard of "icing" occuring in any engine, therefore making the cooler intake air temperatures a desired effect...

as a result, in the winter months you will want to run a cold air intake...the cooler air charges will give you both better performance and better gas milleage...but as for the summer months, he is right, run a cold air intake...the hot 100 degree heat outside is typically still cooler than the heat under the hood of your car the is heated by the engine...

 

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I have never heard of air that is "too cold" running through the throttle body...especially when nitrous running through the intake (which in turn will make its way through the throttle body) runs at about -50 to -100 degrees centigrade depending on the shot of nitrous...this is how nitrous works, by cooling the intake charge to temperatures which make the air so dense that it's similar to running boost (similar number of oxygen molecules in a certain volume of space as a mild boost application)...I have never heard of "icing" occuring in any engine, therefore making the cooler intake air temperatures a desired effect...

as a result, in the winter months you will want to run a cold air intake...the cooler air charges will give you both better performance and better gas milleage...but as for the summer months, he is right, run a cold air intake...the hot 100 degree heat outside is typically still cooler than the heat under the hood of your car the is heated by the engine...</TD></TR></TABLE>


He's right, that is what the premise of nitrous is, the more air, the colder the air, the better the fuel burns. Cold air intakes however, are dangerous because they can suck water up into your engine, potentially causing what is called "hydrolock." That is why the air intake breathers are recommended. I'm not sure if they work or not, some people swear by them though.

Bottom line: Cold air intakes deliver more low end torque, than short ram intakes.

 

/\ Agreed!

Your throttle body will almost never freeze up because you not only have coolant going through it but once the charge hits the warm intake pipe it should never freeze.

Run the CAI at all time unless you know it's raining very hard and chances of puddles or snow banks then either take it off and run the short ram or use a bypass valve of some sort.

 

luckily most of the roads around where i live do a good job at keeping water off of them, so i dont have alot of trouble with big puddles. since torque is really what im looking for, im going to stick with the CAI installation .