ok im looking to get a new set of spark plug wires for my JRSC'd GSR 6psi and am debating on what to get?
i was thinking a set of Taylor 8mm or just OEM ones becuase everyones saying that the OEM wire sets are the best. But what about because my car is boosted? shouldnt i have better wires???

let me know

OEM's ?????
Taylors???

ohh yea is there a diff between GSR and ITR wires besides the part number from acura. thanks

 

I vote for OEM even on your JRSC setup. I have built a few cars with JRSC's and never had a problem using OEM wires.

 

NGK blue wires.

 

well i heard that the NGK's werent as good

 

well shouldnt there be something a lil bigger than the stock ones with boost

 

nology hot wires...those things are the dopeness.

 

nologys are toooo big!! lol

 

msd's?
i dunno man u keep turning everything down...
but those nologys are perfect for jrsc. my friend had some on his... for the nology's here.

 

idk i just heard something like the OEM wires out performed some of the aftermarket ones and i wanted some opinons on them. im not shooting everyone down i just want some opinons thats all. i appreciate them

isnt there a dyno chart where they tests oem's vs some others ?

 

I've been taking notice in picture threads w/people who are running a forced induction setup, and many of them use the NGK blue wires. I'm using them now and they look/work/fit fine, but for now I'm n/a, so I can't tell you from my own opinion at least. Search for some boosted picture threads and just look at what wires people are using, that should work.

 

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Except for the fact that they have been proven to cause power loss. They are a rip off too.

If you expect a power gain from spark plug wires, I really pity you.

 

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Except for the fact that they have been proven to cause power loss. They are a rip off too.

If you expect a power gain from spark plug wires, I really pity you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
can u show me your source for this proven power loss? i thought they were great for current flow... ???

 

From Magnecor's website:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"CAPACITOR" EFFECT WIRES with grounded metal braiding over jacket-
The most notable of exaggerated claims for ignition wires are made by Nology, a recent manufacturer of ignition wires promoted as "the only spark plug wires with built-in capacitor." Nology's "HotWires" (called "Plasma Leads" in the UK) consist of unsuppressed solid metal or spiral conductor ignition wires over which braided metal sleeves are partially fitted. The braided metal sleeves are grounded via straps formed from part of the braiding. Insulating covers are fitted over the braided metal sleeves. These wires are well constructed. For whatever reason, Nology specifies that non-resistor spark plugs need to be used with their "HotWires." In a demonstration, the use of resistor plugs nullifies the visual effect of the brighter spark.

Ignition wires with grounded braided metal sleeves over the cable have come and gone all over the world for (at least) the last 30 years, and similar wires were used over 20 years ago by a few car makers to solve cross-firing problems on early fuel injected engines and RFI problems on fiberglass bodied cars — only to find other problems were created. The recent Circle Track Magazine (USA, May, 1996 issue) test showed Nology "HotWires" produced no additional horsepower (the test actually showed a 10 horsepower decrease when compared to stock carbon conductor wires).

The perceived effect a brighter spark, conducted by an ignition wire, encased or partially encased in a braided metal sleeve (shield) grounded to the engine, jumping across a huge free-air gap (which bears no relationship to the spark needed to fire the variable air/fuel mixture under pressure in a combustion chamber) is continually being re-discovered and cleverly demonstrated by marketers who convince themselves there's monetary value in such a bright spark, and all sorts of wild, completely un-provable claims are made for this phenomena.

Like many in the past, Nology cleverly demonstrates a brighter free-air spark containing useless flash-over created by the crude "capacitor" (effect) of this style of wire. In reality, the bright spark has no more useful energy to fire a variable compressed air/fuel mixture than the clean spark you would see in a similar demonstration using any good carbon conductor wire. What is happening in such a demonstration is the coil output is being unnecessarily boosted to additionally supply spark energy that is induced (and wasted) into the grounded braided metal sleeve around the ignition wire's jacket. To test the validity of this statement, ask the demonstrator to disconnect the ground strap and observe just how much energy is sparking to ground.

Claims by Nology of their "HotWires" creating sparks that are "300 times more powerful," reaching temperatures of "100,000 to 150,000 degrees F" (more than enough to melt spark plug electrodes), spark durations of "4 billionths of a second" (spark duration is controlled by the ignition system itself) and currents of "1,000 amperes" magically evolving in "capacitors" allegedly "built-in" to the ignition wires are as ridiculous as the data and the depiction of sparks in photographs used in advertising material and the price asked for these wires! Most stock ignition primaries are regulated to 6 amperes and the most powerful race ignition to no more than 40 amperes at 12,000 RPM.

It is common knowledge amongst automotive electrical engineers that it is unwise to use ignition wires fitted with grounded braided metal sleeves fitted over ignition cable jackets on an automobile engine. This type of ignition wires forces its cable jackets to become an unsuitable dielectric for a crude capacitor (effect) between the conductor and the braided metal sleeves. While the wires function normally when first fitted, the cable jackets soon break down as a dielectric, and progressively more spark energy is induced from the conductors (though the cable jackets) into the grounded metal sleeves, causing the ignition coil to unnecessarily output more energy to fire both the spark plug gaps and the additional energy lost via the braided metal sleeves. Often this situation leads to ignition coil and control unit overload failures. It should be noted that it is dangerous to use these wires if not grounded to the engine, as the grounding straps will be alive with thousands of volts wanting to ground-out to anything (or body) nearby.

Unless you are prepared to accept poorly suppressed ignition wires that fail sooner than any other type of ignition wires and stretch your ignition system to the limit, and have an engine with no electronic management system and/or exhaust emission controls, it's best not to be influenced by the exaggerated claims, and some vested-interest journalists', resellers' and installers' perception an engine has more power after Nology wires are fitted. Often, after replacing deteriorated wires, any new ignition wires make an engine run better. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I can't find any dyno charts online, but I know that there was a tuner issue that actually tested them and they showed a loss in power. Either way, NGKs are trusted and are way cheaper.

 

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I can't find any dyno charts online, but I know that there was a tuner issue that actually tested them and they showed a loss in power. Either way, NGKs are trusted and are way cheaper.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thank you for that.

 

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thank you for that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No problem. If you really have to urge to upgrade your wires, Magnecor is probably your best bet.

 

you are dumb. why would you believe a review about a company from a competitor? its like aem saying injen intakes sucks. such a dumass to believe that ****

 

Ok, then show me something that proves that they work better than stock.

It isn't like they are making this **** up.

Go ahead, pay $140 for a set of spark plug wires and we'll see who is the dumbass. Just don't bitch when you found out you wasted your money on garbage.

 

it makes sense. i realize it's from a competitor...and i understand what companies do to advance their product...
like i said, it makes sense.
doesn't mean i'm gonna go out and buy magnecores, but it increases overall understanding. of course i'm not gonna buy into that last paragraph but from a technical standpoint, it makes sense. (had to emphasize the 'it makes sense' part for you).
so, you're the dumass to criticize someone for that.
******.

 

nology wires are the gayness... i can't believe people are so golible to spend so much money on some crap as wires which will eventually break down on you after several spark plugs changes.
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back on topic... if you are just looking for wires... get the oem or ngk blues... however, if you are using an external coil and need the wires to support the high voltage... then i'd suggest you get the msd or magnacore wires... they are very well constructed.

now with that said--&gt; /thread

 

yea i think i'll stick with oems heard they flow a constant spark and some aftermarkets start to miss at high RPMS

 

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OT but dude you need to chill..you always get worked up when you think others are wrong. only been a member for 2 months and already lost 3%. calling someone else a dumbass when its not necessary isnt going to do anything except make you look stupid

back to topic...Id def try to grab some oem wires(sumitomo), ive read over and over again how they outperform other leading brands. This is the 2nd question to come up about wires this week, I never saw a real test of comparison when i searched, but we should get one going to end all the debates and theories. btw Ngk is also great for they damn good fitment

 

OEM

 

well i was looking at the taylor 8mm wires and i have a hook up that can give me a good deal on them about the same price as oem ones so.... i think i'll just go with taylors