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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 04:59 AM
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After roughly 10 minutes of driving my car at around 85 MPH, When I was slowing down I noticed that the clutch seemed alot looser...Not 'looser' necessarily, but there is a lot of freeplay in the pedal. The clutch still has the same amount of grip. The clutch engagment area has just been reduced significantly. As soon as the pedal comes off the floor, the clutch is completely engaged.

Can someone help me with wtf is going on here? Do I need to bleed the system, or what?

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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:09 AM
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That sounds like it is most definitely your clutch hydraulic fluid is low/needs to be bled. You might have air in the system.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:30 AM
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Yep - slave needs to be bleed.

Do you know how?
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:32 AM
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just take a quick reach down to the pedal and make sure that the adjustment on the piston didnt come loose....
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mgags7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just take a quick reach down to the pedal and make sure that the adjustment on the piston didnt come loose....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not sure what you mean. It is impossible for the clutch adjustment to come loose. To adjust it you have to detach the master cylinder rod from the pedal, right?

Just curious what you mean.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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Sweet thanks. I'll go bleed it now and check back.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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Actually, give me a few minutes. Bleeding the system using only myself isn't very easy. Time to bust out my friend, Mr. broom stick.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:16 AM
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OK. I'm pretty sure I got the procedure down.

Basically, loosen the bleed screw on the slave cylinder. Depress clutch, tighten screw and let the clutch slowly return. Repeat.

...My clutch isn't popping back up...

Now what?
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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I don't think you are bleeding it properly. You need two people.

You will need one person to pump the pedal a few times (initially they will have to pull the pedal up with their hands, then pump it, pull it back up with their hands), then they hold the pedal to the floor while you slowly loosen the bleeder valve. You will repeat until no more air comes out.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:21 AM
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Well that why I was using a broom stick to hold the clutch down.

So it's not uncommon to have to do it by hand a few times? That's all I was wondering. I was just worried when the clutch was just falling to the floor.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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no, you cant open the bleeder before, you have to have pressure on it before you open it....
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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Makes sense...So how do I put pressure on it if it's just dropping to the floor?
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 11:33 AM
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Bump.

Really, I'm 99.9% percent sure I'm bleeding the system correctly. The pedal continues to just fall to the floor, and I'm pumping out brake fluid each pump, so I'm reasonably sure there is no air left in there.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Both times I bled my system, it took literally 15-20 minutes of pumping. The pedal was limp for most of the time. It took a while for it to firm up.

Whoa, that sounds kind of weird. LOL
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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Define 'limp' did this 'limp' pedal return to the top if you let go of it?

Really, I pick the pedal up. It'll stay in place, but with one finger I can push it a few inches, then it falls.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Yes, limp as in the way you described it. I had to literally pump the pedal and pull it hack with my hand for a while.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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Yep. Same here. Thanks for all the help with the n00b guys.
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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So did you get that figured out?

There is a tech that you can use w/ a hose and a cetch can. This is a one man bleed. Says in the Helms. Or buy one of those hand pump thangs.
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