the car is a 00 GSR (B18C) and the engine is in good condition (60k miles.)

keep in mind that:

- the car daily driven, so it needs to stay reliable
- it will be running stock internals
- I could care less about drag racing.. I just want a all around fast car

 

turbo
turbo has so much more potenchiel than a super charger.
if people complane about boost lag just get a smaller turbo
a gt28rs will have almost instant spool and make as much bottom end as a blower and much more top end

 

well like mentioned above...if you are planning on wanting more power later on or if you would like better top end power then the turbo is probably the way to go

for cruising around town and normal city driving I would say sc....

in terms of reliability, i would imagine a properly installed/tuned turbo setup would be just as reliable as a properly installed/tuned sc setup

whatever you do, just make sure it's done right and you wont have trouble down the road

 

1. What is your goal?
2. What is your budget?
3. Less importantly, how much power/how fast do you want to make/be?

EDIT: Have you looked here? https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=688120

Also browse the Forced Induction FAQ.

 

I was undecided between the 2....i'm currently piecing together a turbo kit right now.

With a supercharger you're going to be "stuck" at a certain point for power. At boost levels around 11psi you're going to need something to cool the intake temps....ie expensive intercooler system, water injection etc...

Try to get a ride in someones supercharged integra and see if its enough power for you. If you're happy with it...go supercharged, its very linear for the street and you're always in boost...even at idle!

If you want more power, and the ability to upgrade...go turbo!

Lets just not turn this into a reliability thread....

 

i vote turbo all the way

and hey 211 wheel torque at 5.5k is lots of fun from a small turbo with instant spool

 

wouldnt turbo be a problem when smogging in cali?

 

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the car is a 00 GSR (B18C) and the engine is in good condition (60k miles.)

keep in mind that:

- the car daily driven, so it needs to stay reliable
- it will be running stock internals
- I could care less about drag racing.. I just want a all around fast car</TD></TR></TABLE>

Stock internals + FI = Mechanical Carnage.

 

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2. What is your budget?
3. Less importantly, how much power/how fast do you want to make/be?</TD></TR></TABLE>

My goal is to be able to have a all around fast car that I can drive hard everyday.
My budget is &gt;4000.
I want the car to be in low 13s or high 12s, but like you said, that's not really that important. I just want something that doesn't blow up my engine.


Modified by pr0phet at 4:23 PM 11/22/2005

 

Is this true no matter what? Or can smaller kits actualy run safe on stock internals?

 

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i'd say to be safe no higher than 8 psi on stock internals...if you want to be real safe run 6 psi

 

There have been a few reliable 350+Hp setups that are stock internally, but you could be the farm that they have been carefully tuned. 300Hp setups on turbos and 250Hp setups on JRSC is not uncommon with stock internals. Just make sure you have good engine management and you and your engine will live a long and happy life.

 

imo, i would get a jackson racing supecharger.. u can pick one up used for like $1500.

the supercharger requires less maintainance than a turbocharger.. also, you will have plenty of low end power for daily driving.. you dont have to wait to spool up either.

i have nothing against turbos, but for a daily driver, i think the supercharger is the way to go b/c like u said, you arent concerned with drag racing.

 

supercharged...plenty of power for daily driver..

 

i'd go turbo. never had any problems pushing 8.5 psi on stock internals. everybody that i knew that went supercharged, wished they'd went the turbo route. the only thing good with sc is reliability and that it's smog legal. my .02.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pr0phet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My goal is to be able to have a all around fast car that I can drive hard everyday.
My budget is &gt;4000.
I want the car to be in low 13s or high 12s, but like you said, that's not really that important. I just want something that doesn't blow up my engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you mean GREATER than $4000? If that's the case, you will have no problems having something reliable. Remember, an increase in power/boost levels/etc doesn't necesarily equate to unreliability. The lack of good tuning is what makes or breaks the car, literally.

Low 13's or high 12's can easily be done by throwing basically any available turbo kit (except the Greddy, it's too small, and expensive for what you get) on the motor. Mid to low 13's on a GSR and maybe mid to high 13's on an LS motor. With slicks, you'll be well into your goal with your GSR.

If you indeed meant to put greater than $4000 as your budget, then you can look into Full Race for a kit. Many people, including me, recommend a custom pieced together kit, but Full Race has pretty much a perfect kit already. They are pricey, but well within your price range.

After that, get a good engine/fuel management system. These can include, but aren't limited to Hondata, AEM EMS, Crome, Haltec, Motec, etc. These are the most important part to any turbo application.

If you still have some deep pockets after all that, you still have the option to build your engine internally. The kit is basically limitless in power potential (to a point ).