hey guys well im building an lsvtec turbo..and im only looking for about 350+whp and i plan on putting new forged pistons in and rod bolts of course...but i heard you yhave to take exact measurements etc., what are all the tools i would need to do this myself and how? also, i think iwould be fine with the ls rods do you agree? (btw there is a good amount of headwork being done)thanks

 

get the low compression pistons from JE that will match the B16 head so you dont smack a valve then get some nice eagle rods (H-beam) this could be had for roughly $850 which is that i payed for it almost 3 yrs ago

 

ive got a gsr head, so does that mean that i should go ahead and get some better rods? any more help on the other q's is appreciated

 

the rods i told you will hold fine up to 400hp, why take a chance and blow a block when you can spent an extra 300-400 dollars. I am sure it will cost more in the long run if you don't.

here is a bit of advise what you do with it i can care less. when building a motor i know you get all excited and want to finish it, take a second to look over what you want to accomplish and how you will get there. Do a lot of research as there are many topics on this board that covers mostly anything you could want to accomplish. Write down a parts list and prices, then figure out how much its going to cost. Do not cheap out on important parts just because you want the car done quicker than you can afford because it will cost more in the long run than it would have to complete it right the first time.

I took the hard route myself. At first i was only going to do a B20vtec swap which moved to a B20vtec Turbo, so trust me do the research and do it the right way. You learn by mistakes but sometimes mistakes costs lots of money.

 

yeah thanks man, it seems like im excited but im trying to be patient...well the main thing is, is that do any of you know how to install the parts just so i can save myself some money, all of the eadwork is being done here at a local shop

 

bumpage before work

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PnkRokCountryboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah thanks man, it seems like im excited but im trying to be patient...well the main thing is, is that do any of you know how to install the parts just so i can save myself some money, all of the eadwork is being done here at a local shop</TD></TR></TABLE> pistons and rods are Pita since your head is already off. all you need are some tools and you are good to go.

 

feeler gauge, micrometer, taper tool, these are some of the tools if you wanna do it wright, then again you have to know the proper ways to use these tools

 

dont forget the torque wrench

 

yeah ive got em all actually..but isnt there exact measurements that need to be taken? or something else that could screw it up?

 

get a haynes or honda manual to tourqe to specific measurments. new gasketsand seals.
ummm errrr.....
proper tourqing is the key to building an engine!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PnkRokCountryboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah ive got em all actually..but isnt there exact measurements that need to be taken? or something else that could screw it up?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, you have to plastiguage the bearing clearances on both the top and bottom halves of the main caps, main journals and rod journals and caps. You take the plastigauged strips and measure them to see which "color" Honda bearings you need.

Use proper torque specs and the same kind of assembly lube/procedures you plan for the final build or it's all worthless.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, you have to plastiguage the bearing clearances on both the top and bottom halves of the main caps, main journals and rod journals and caps. You take the plastigauged strips and measure them to see which "color" Honda bearings you need.

Use proper torque specs and the same kind of assembly lube/procedures you plan for the final build or it's all worthless.</TD></TR></TABLE>
another way to find out what bearings you need is to get the numbers from the bottom of your block and the letters on your crank, i think i got that right been a while. anyway its in the helms manual and once you put the numbers and letters together it will tell you what size you need for each journal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thid92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another way to find out what bearings you need is to get the numbers from the bottom of your block and the letters on your crank, i think i got that right been a while. anyway its in the helms manual and once you put the numbers and letters together it will tell you what size you need for each journal</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's fine for brand new parts, but after parts have been in there for a while they wear down and the only way to get a true measurement is to plastiguage.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's fine for brand new parts, but after parts have been in there for a while they wear down and the only way to get a true measurement is to plastiguage.</TD></TR></TABLE> thats a good point

 

thanks for the help guys, do oyu think i should just take it to a shop to have them assemble it, or is it pretty costly?

 

its not hard to do just get a manual and do it step by step also if anyone close by knows how to do it would help you that way you will learn.

 

this kid just needs a good friend or someone to show him how to disasemble the motor and put it back together. then u will be set.