Has anyone seen these plasma boosters for the 01-05 civic coil on plug ignitions? It's the only ignition booster for our cars, but is it really worth the $480? That seems like a lot for such a little gain.

http://www.ignitionsolutions.c...t.asp

 

waste of money imo

 

that's what I was thinking

 

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I have to say false, unless im wrong which i doubt. The MSD DIS 2 systems will work. this is a distributor less ignition control. This system is is like a car stereo amp and blaster cap all rolled up into 1. I had one of these on my 2000 Cavalier Z24.

http://www.msdignition.com/ign...5.htm

Digital DIS Ignition Controls
PN 62112|62152
The mid 1980’s was the beginning of the end for distributors in regard to new cars. The Buick Grand Nationals started using coil pack technology while many other GM vehicles were using dual tower coil packs sometimes known as Waste Spark systems. When Ford moved to the 4.6L Modular engine in the ’96 Mustang, there were two coil packs with four towers each set up as a Waste Spark. Other common applications came from Mitsubishi and eventually Chrysler systems.
MSD’s DIS Ignition Controls are designed for engines with coil pack, waste spark ignition systems. The DIS-2 has two channels, to fire two coil packs, while the DIS-4 is capable of firing up to four coil packs (or even for individual coils). Each Control delivers full power Capacitive Discharge sparks from idle through racing rpm. Below 3,000 rpm there is a series of multiple sparks that last for up to 20° to improve idle, starting and throttle response.
The adjustable features of the DIS Ignitions have also been upgraded with rotary dials. These provide easier, and more precise adjustments of the overrev limiter and the holeshot rev limit. Also, there is now a step retard that can be wired directly to a nitrous system or switch for activation!

MSD Digital DIS-2 Plus - PN 62112
(Designed for 4-cylinder engines with two coil packs.)

MSD Digital DIS-4 Plus - PN 62152
(Designed for use on 6 or 8-cylinder engines with three or four coil packs.)


OPERATING SPECIFICATIONS FOR MSD DIS IGNITIONS
Operating Voltage: 12-18 Volts Negative Ground
Current Draw: DIS-2 3.5A@10,000 rpm
DIS-4 6.6A@10,000 rpm
RPM Range: 14,500 rpm with 14.4 volt supply
Spark Duration: 20° crankshaft rotation
Spark Energy: 105 - 115 milliJoules per spark
Weight and Size: DIS-2: 4 lbs, 8.5"Lx4.5"Wx2.2"H
DIS-4: 4.5 lbs, 9.5"Lx4.5"Wx2.2"H
Voltage Output Max: Primary: 460-480 volts delivered to coil
Secondary: 40,000+ volts (MSD HVC Coil)

 

Nology also offers up something for distributorless ignitions


http://nology.com/power.html

 

cool, never see either of those before

 

If you had upgraded your intake system and fuel system its also a good idea to upgrade the ignition system. With more air and fuel its a good idea to have a good spark also. Mainly to get all of the power potential out of your ride.

 

Unless you're making 400+whp, there really isn't a need to upgrade any of the ignition components. Many people have shown that even though they're making gobs of hp, there isn't much breaking up.

 

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Yup. Waste of money unless you're boosting a lot. No way an NA K20 will benefit from these.

 

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Yup. Waste of money unless you're boosting a lot. No way an NA K20 will benefit from these.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have to disagree. While i have never seen huge or even marginal gains I have seen dyno charts (in general) show a 1 to 2 HP gain and torque in some areas, I have seen the power band smooth out, and in a time like these fuel economy is improved.

Furthermore, until any of us sees a dyno chart showing the before and after dyno plot of an ignition enhancer installed on a K series engine, all of this is speculation.

I like to think of these as a blaster cap on a stereo system. People say they dont need them on their car stereo amps until they get them. MSD has a 2 Step Rev limiter as well as a kill switch operation. Not only can use it for launch control, but you ca rig a kill switch. something else i did when i had it was I unplugged the jumper pack, not only did they have to figure how to plug it back up, they had to get around a kill switch too. Not like a Cavalier Z24 was a hot theft item, right?

With the MSD DIS 2 system, you can switch back and forth from stock ignition to MSD. It has a jumper plug that can go in place of the MSD. So before and after dynos can be run back to back instantly with no down time for removal or installion of components.

PS its programmable for nitrous and ignition retard too, something else to consider, doh.

 

i havn't done the fuel system yet, but I did replace my spark plugs with NKG Iridium IX. It works just fine for my app.

 

Uh, I've <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lynx Bus Type R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have to disagree. While i have never seen huge or even marginal gains I have seen dyno charts (in general) show a 1 to 2 HP gain and torque in some areas, I have seen the power band smooth out, and in a time like these fuel economy is improved.

Furthermore, until any of us sees a dyno chart showing the before and after dyno plot of an ignition enhancer installed on a K series engine, all of this is speculation.

I like to think of these as a blaster cap on a stereo system. People say they dont need them on their car stereo amps until they get them. MSD has a 2 Step Rev limiter as well as a kill switch operation. Not only can use it for launch control, but you ca rig a kill switch. something else i did when i had it was I unplugged the jumper pack, not only did they have to figure how to plug it back up, they had to get around a kill switch too. Not like a Cavalier Z24 was a hot theft item, right?

With the MSD DIS 2 system, you can switch back and forth from stock ignition to MSD. It has a jumper plug that can go in place of the MSD. So before and after dynos can be run back to back instantly with no down time for removal or installion of components.

PS its programmable for nitrous and ignition retard too, something else to consider, doh.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uh, I've seen dynos of the Plasma Boosters on the K20. A well-known member at clubrsx has them on his ride. He uses them only because he's sponsored. They're basically worthless. One of those mods that Honda would have done at the factory if it was so easy to get extra power from the engine.

 

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Uh, I've seen dynos of the Plasma Boosters on the K20. A well-known member at clubrsx has them on his ride. He uses them only because he's sponsored. They're basically worthless. One of those mods that Honda would have done at the factory if it was so easy to get extra power from the engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh my bad dude, I thought you were talking about MSD in general.