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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 07:22 PM
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First of all, Is there a quality tig machine that will plug right into a standard household outlet? I don't think my father would be very content when he sees his son trying to add a 220 outlet to the garage...

I was looking at the Miller Econotig/Hobard Tigmate. However, I have no idea how it hooks up to a power source.

I want something that can weld up to schedule 40 stainless, to Aluminum.

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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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if you want to do aluminum, you will need something that can do ac current welding. i believe the tigmate will not suit your needs. research on miller's website. they have all the specs right there.

i have a miller 180sd and it is great for my needs which include ms, ss, alum...

i have it wired directly into my panel in the basement. i have a safety disconnect switch in the garage where i can turn it on and off as needed. that switch is rated for 60 amps, as is the breaker in the panel i have it wired to in the basement. make sure you use the proper gauge wire as well.

if you do change your mind and decide to go with the tigmate, it will plug into the wall, just make sure the breaker for the outlet you plug it into is rated properly for the amps. i think it is something around 25-30 or so.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Well, the tigmate and the econotig are basically the same machine. They are both AC/DC machines, but I don't know if they plug into a standard outlet.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:43 AM
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The Econotig/ Tigmate both require a 50amp 220v outlet.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, the tigmate and the econotig are basically the same machine. They are both AC/DC machines, but I don't know if they plug into a standard outlet. </TD></TR></TABLE> i'm currently using the Econotig plugging into the dryer outlet (30AMP 220V circuit). I made my own extension out of 3/6g wires...works great. i know quite a few on here plugs their welder to the dryer outlet.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Dynasty 200. I've been using it at the class I'm taking and I'm pretty sure I'll end up buying one.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by @irborne &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i'm currently using the Econotig plugging into the dryer outlet (30AMP 220V circuit). I made my own extension out of 3/6g wires...works great. i know quite a few on here plugs their welder to the dryer outlet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Awsome. yeah a guy I work with is an electrician, and he mentioned this. I asked him if someone made a 220V extension, and he said no, but he could make one for me.



<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dynasty 200. I've been using it at the class I'm taking and I'm pretty sure I'll end up buying one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hrmm, any more info on that? If it plugs into a standard outlet, that would be schweet.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hrmm, any more info on that? If it plugs into a standard outlet, that would be schweet. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I believe you can plug it into 110, 220 and whatever else there is outlets. I know it'll do 110 and 220 for sure though, because the guy plugged it into the standard wall outlet in the conference room and turned the machine on. Plus its only ~45lbs and is small enough to take (almost) anywhere with you.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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the dynasty is an expensive welder

when it comes down to welders. you dont wanna go cheap or get one thats too weak.

also if its a 200 itll work but you're rather limited how many amps you can push.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the dynasty is an expensive welder

when it comes down to welders. you dont wanna go cheap or get one thats too weak.

also if its a 200 itll work but you're rather limited how many amps you can push.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I think the Dynasty goes for around $2700 or so.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I believe you can plug it into 110, 220 and whatever else there is outlets. I know it'll do 110 and 220 for sure though, because the guy plugged it into the standard wall outlet in the conference room and turned the machine on. Plus its only ~45lbs and is small enough to take (almost) anywhere with you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

OOo...Although that thing is damn expensive, I might have to invest in it. It seems to have the features of the best tig welders, yet its small, light, square wave, and can plug into the standard outlet. Everytime I look at it, its exactly what I'm looking for...only its a huge chunk of change...hrmmm.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OOo...Although that thing is damn expensive, I might have to invest in it. It seems to have the features of the best tig welders, yet its small, light, square wave, and can plug into the standard outlet. Everytime I look at it, its exactly what I'm looking for...only its a huge chunk of change...hrmmm. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Look for a used one. I know the shop by me rents them out for a year or so, then buys new machines and sells all the rentals. They're still in good shape but I'm not sure what the pricing is on them. I'll find out tomorrow night though because I'm looking into picking one up too.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the dynasty is an expensive welder

when it comes down to welders. you dont wanna go cheap or get one thats too weak.

also if its a 200 itll work but you're rather limited how many amps you can push.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, I'm pretty sure I won't be welding anything thicker or harder than schedule 40 stainless. If it can weld that reliably on the 115V circuit, it's my #1 choice at this point.
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daveG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Look for a used one. I know the shop by me rents them out for a year or so, then buys new machines and sells all the rentals. They're still in good shape but I'm not sure what the pricing is on them. I'll find out tomorrow night though because I'm looking into picking one up too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That would kickass. . Also, FYI the guy who was interested in my slicks hasn't responded to my PMs lately. If he doesn't get back with me soon, I'll let you know...
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That would kickass. . Also, FYI the guy who was interested in my slicks hasn't responded to my PMs lately. If he doesn't get back with me soon, I'll let you know... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Awesome. I just got a job teaching a lab next quarter so I won't be completely broke if I buy those.
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