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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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ok so i am planning on changing my plugs/wires and O2 sensor tomorrow night or saturday morning and was wondering if i should seafoam my motor before hand?

D16z6
160k miles
last oil change at 158,500 miles

if i do this why do i read that it should not be put in the oil because of my high mileage motor, before another oil change?

should i or not
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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I would say yes to putting it in through your brake booster vaccum line, to clean
-combustion chamber
-valves
-piston tops
but Ive never done the oil , Ive used it to clean the top end on 4 cars and seemed to work great, including my car has been done 3-4 times. Get ready for hella' white and grey smoke when driving it for the first 10-30 min. ->sea-foam
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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ive done the oil, the fuel and the brake booster and it seems to work good. and yes, i would do it before so you basically have a "fresh start" once you get all your new stuff in.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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what about people with turbo

some say its bad and some say its good
which is it
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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wut about the things behind removin carbon deposits makes u lose compression on high milage motor is that true?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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made me pass my emissions... from 282 to 70
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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If you have a signifigant amount of carbon build-up in the combustion chamber and or on valves, piston tops, this would create a smaller chamber thus raising the compression. when you use sea-foam correctly it removes all of this in turn lowering the compression.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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I would say use bg44k to do a fuel system clean along with top-end (valves, C/C, piston tops). Its 21.95 a can but awesome ****. Try that you will like it
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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do the brake booster, that **** is awesome
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1D16Z6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do the brake booster, that **** is awesome</TD></TR></TABLE>
-Whats awsome is the smoke screen!
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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whats even more awesome is do the brake booster with the rear end in
the garage, and a cockatiel right by it.

lol. almost killed my cockatiel.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by komat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about people with turbo

some say its bad and some say its good
which is it</TD></TR></TABLE>

There was a thread in the FI forum a few months ago. The guy was scared shitless to do it, but he did, and sure enough everything was okay.

I would put it through the brake booster first, and then put it in the crankcase and go for a drive.

Then drain the oil and pull the plugs. Replace the filter and plugs, and then refil the engine oil.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nota-eg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There was a thread in the FI forum a few months ago. The guy was scared shitless to do it, but he did, and sure enough everything was okay.

I would put it through the brake booster first, and then put it in the crankcase and go for a drive.

Then drain the oil and pull the plugs. Replace the filter and plugs, and then refil the engine oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how long do you leave it in the crankcase b4 changing the oil? and what about putting it in the gas tank?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cypher0117 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

how long do you leave it in the crankcase b4 changing the oil? and what about putting it in the gas tank?</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont know about the crankcase, probably not long, but put it in your gas tank with a full tank.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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I would do it no matter how many miles are on your car. I put it in my crankcase back when I had 130,000 miles on my car....what is 30,000?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by komat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about people with turbo

some say its bad and some say its good
which is it</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1016891 turbo seafoamed (I was there, and it worked GREAT!)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cypher0117 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how long do you leave it in the crankcase b4 changing the oil? and what about putting it in the gas tank?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I leave it in there no more than an hour or so (not neccisarialy driving the whole time either). And put it in with a full tank.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dorkoftheyear &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you have a signifigant amount of carbon build-up in the combustion chamber and or on valves, piston tops, this would create a smaller chamber thus raising the compression. when you use sea-foam correctly it removes all of this in turn lowering the compression. </TD></TR></TABLE>

And you think that carbon build-up is a GREAT thing for performance and gas milage huh? *sarcasim*Why would ANYONE POSSIBLY want their engines to look like they were BRAND new again. That's just stupid.*sarcasim*
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Best way here...

With the engine slightly warm...not too hot, remove all plugs and pour in about an ounce into each cylinder and let it sit for about an hour. The detergents in the sea-foam will clean the area around the rings and cylinder and top of pistons. Throw your plugs back in and crank it WOT...may take a while to start bac up and watch out for smoke. Let the smoke clear out, and then run it through a vacuum port- booster, etc. I've done this and gained as much as 20 psi in one cylinder and have burned MUCH less, if not any oil compared to before. Deffinately worth it.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Just wondering but wouldn't this strip the oil from the bore and cause scuffing?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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wow a thread on seafoam haha tire pressure should be next
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by violence_hero &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just wondering but wouldn't this strip the oil from the bore and cause scuffing?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it's an oil based detergent...kind of like mustery oil, but stronger
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evs-One &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Best way here...

With the engine slightly warm...not too hot, remove all plugs and pour in about an ounce into each cylinder and let it sit for about an hour. The detergents in the sea-foam will clean the area around the rings and cylinder and top of pistons. Throw your plugs back in and crank it WOT...may take a while to start bac up and watch out for smoke. Let the smoke clear out, and then run it through a vacuum port- booster, etc. I've done this and gained as much as 20 psi in one cylinder and have burned MUCH less, if not any oil compared to before. Deffinately worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Has anyone else tried this? sounds like it could potentially be great, but also potentially hazardous.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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i have, seafoam is flammable its like dumping extra fuel into your cylinders. ive tried it on my 90 bmw with 200,000 miles on it and it helps... i heard some people can even spray water into their throttle bodies which has similar effects as seafoam, it breaks off carbon deposits... but dont try it if you dont know what youre doing
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 01:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teh MAARZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have, seafoam is flammable its like dumping extra fuel into your cylinders. ive tried it on my 90 bmw with 200,000 miles on it and it helps... i heard some people can even spray water into their throttle bodies which has similar effects as seafoam, it breaks off carbon deposits... but dont try it if you dont know what youre doing</TD></TR></TABLE>

no danger of hydrolock?
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