b16 cheap turbo, but safe?
if i wanted to boost my b16. nothing crazy, just like 5 pounds at it... what is the cheapest way to do it safe?
im not talking ghetto, but instead of getting a $800 equal length manifold and hondata, what are my alternatives?
im not talking ghetto, but instead of getting a $800 equal length manifold and hondata, what are my alternatives?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fast cheap reliable.... pick 2
you cannot half *** a turbo kit no matter who tells you that you can</TD></TR></TABLE>
here we go with the triangle again:
fast and cheap is not reliable.
cheap and reliable is not fast
reliable and fast is not cheap.
do yourself a favor and read up on it. do not skimp on anything. remember, you are only as good as your weakest link. i am now waiting for my tranny to **** out.
if you are looking to go 5 psi and dont want to do any engine management, may i suggest a kit that has some means of fuel enrichment. either via a control box, like the greddy, or through an fm like the drag kit. if you dont think you will outgrow it, trust me you will, go with the greddy kit. i like the drag kit, i had it on my car for the betterpart of 4 years. i outgrew it finally. just stay away from ss auto ****. you will regret it if you buy their stuff.
you cannot half *** a turbo kit no matter who tells you that you can</TD></TR></TABLE>
here we go with the triangle again:
fast and cheap is not reliable.
cheap and reliable is not fast
reliable and fast is not cheap.
do yourself a favor and read up on it. do not skimp on anything. remember, you are only as good as your weakest link. i am now waiting for my tranny to **** out.
if you are looking to go 5 psi and dont want to do any engine management, may i suggest a kit that has some means of fuel enrichment. either via a control box, like the greddy, or through an fm like the drag kit. if you dont think you will outgrow it, trust me you will, go with the greddy kit. i like the drag kit, i had it on my car for the betterpart of 4 years. i outgrew it finally. just stay away from ss auto ****. you will regret it if you buy their stuff.
yea, i know the 2 of three things rule.
i know about ss autochrome and all that.
im not a newb.
i should have worded myself better.
in short, whats better for me- a kit or piece together a kit. i know my ****, but yeah.
i know about ss autochrome and all that.
im not a newb.
i should have worded myself better.
in short, whats better for me- a kit or piece together a kit. i know my ****, but yeah.
i just sold a COMPLETE turbo kit for b series for $1000 shipped minus the intercooler. tell me why you can't have a cheap and fast car?
ohh...okay
ohh...okay
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just sold a COMPLETE turbo kit for b series for $1000 shipped minus the intercooler. tell me why you can't have a cheap and fast car?
ohh...okay</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm pretty sure this is the only guy that actually read the post before responding. There are plenty of alternatives to those $$$ manifolds. Look into a log manifold, get piping from JC whitney, JRC intercooler, etc. Check the classifieds out. If you take your time you can find some killer deals
Good luck. BTW: Check out Spoolin Performance they are the ****! Good luck man
As far as engine management goes...your close enough to Evans Tuning in PA...look into neptune for a good EM. http://www.evans-tuning.com
ohh...okay</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm pretty sure this is the only guy that actually read the post before responding. There are plenty of alternatives to those $$$ manifolds. Look into a log manifold, get piping from JC whitney, JRC intercooler, etc. Check the classifieds out. If you take your time you can find some killer deals
Good luck. BTW: Check out Spoolin Performance they are the ****! Good luck man
As far as engine management goes...your close enough to Evans Tuning in PA...look into neptune for a good EM. http://www.evans-tuning.com
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will evans be ok with an fmu/vafc or something along those lines?</TD></TR></TABLE>
those are 2 things that cant go together.
either do the fum
or the hack with the vafc.
neptune is the way to go if you are on a budget. i myself have had awesome luck with hondata. but if you are gonna stay with the boost low, an fmu is ok. not the greatest, but it is ok.
those are 2 things that cant go together.
either do the fum
or the hack with the vafc.
neptune is the way to go if you are on a budget. i myself have had awesome luck with hondata. but if you are gonna stay with the boost low, an fmu is ok. not the greatest, but it is ok.
I'm about to order a log manifold, downpipe, dumptube combo from Spoolin Performance. The whole package costs less than most places charge for just a manifold! I hear nothing but great things about Spoolin Performance.....
-TD04 14G turbo w/ 7lb wastegate and had a T3 flange welded on.
-T3 logstyle manifold
-uberdata/crome
-310cc DSM injectors
-Do your own intercooler/downpipe
-Wideband O2
Should be able to do all of that for or less than $800.
edit: Forgot -JRC 6" FMIC- $155 for the unpretty version
-T3 logstyle manifold
-uberdata/crome
-310cc DSM injectors
-Do your own intercooler/downpipe
-Wideband O2
Should be able to do all of that for or less than $800.
edit: Forgot -JRC 6" FMIC- $155 for the unpretty version
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will evans be ok with an fmu/vafc or something along those lines?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stop right there buddy. How cheap are you planning on going? A pump gas NepTune tune is about 600 bucks...and that includes the cost of the software...Unless ou wanna grenade your motor...have it tuned properly...its THE MOST important part of a set-up...Goold luck
Stop right there buddy. How cheap are you planning on going? A pump gas NepTune tune is about 600 bucks...and that includes the cost of the software...Unless ou wanna grenade your motor...have it tuned properly...its THE MOST important part of a set-up...Goold luck
i just turbo my b16 last week
i paid $1700 for everything
just take your time looking for parts
heres the list of stuff i got and paid for
Max rev manifold -
Max rev Downpipe ---
Charge pipes ----- 370
coupler ----
Tbolt clamps ---
Greddy Type S blow off valve -
Garrett T3/T04e 57trim .63a/r(new)-529
450cc injectors(new) - 199
p28 chipped with turbo basemap - 144
Johnnyracingcar 6in intercooler(new) - 155
oil line kit (new) - 109
Walbro fuel pump 255 (new) - 89
Tial 38mm wastegate (new) - 205
Boost guage - 25
motor oil- 30
you can get a complete used kit for $1300 or less if you get all used parts.
i paid $1700 for everything
just take your time looking for parts
heres the list of stuff i got and paid for
Max rev manifold -
Max rev Downpipe ---
Charge pipes ----- 370
coupler ----
Tbolt clamps ---
Greddy Type S blow off valve -
Garrett T3/T04e 57trim .63a/r(new)-529
450cc injectors(new) - 199
p28 chipped with turbo basemap - 144
Johnnyracingcar 6in intercooler(new) - 155
oil line kit (new) - 109
Walbro fuel pump 255 (new) - 89
Tial 38mm wastegate (new) - 205
Boost guage - 25
motor oil- 30
you can get a complete used kit for $1300 or less if you get all used parts.
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