b16 cheap turbo, but safe?
10-17-2005, 12:32 PM
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b16 cheap turbo, but safe?
if i wanted to boost my b16. nothing crazy, just like 5 pounds at it... what is the cheapest way to do it safe?
im not talking ghetto, but instead of getting a $800 equal length manifold and hondata, what are my alternatives?
im not talking ghetto, but instead of getting a $800 equal length manifold and hondata, what are my alternatives?
10-17-2005, 12:43 PM
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Re: b16 cheap turbo, but safe? (wantboost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fast cheap reliable.... pick 2
you cannot half *** a turbo kit no matter who tells you that you can</TD></TR></TABLE>
here we go with the triangle again:
fast and cheap is not reliable.
cheap and reliable is not fast
reliable and fast is not cheap.
do yourself a favor and read up on it. do not skimp on anything. remember, you are only as good as your weakest link. i am now waiting for my tranny to **** out.
if you are looking to go 5 psi and dont want to do any engine management, may i suggest a kit that has some means of fuel enrichment. either via a control box, like the greddy, or through an fm like the drag kit. if you dont think you will outgrow it, trust me you will, go with the greddy kit. i like the drag kit, i had it on my car for the betterpart of 4 years. i outgrew it finally. just stay away from ss auto ****. you will regret it if you buy their stuff.
you cannot half *** a turbo kit no matter who tells you that you can</TD></TR></TABLE>
here we go with the triangle again:
fast and cheap is not reliable.
cheap and reliable is not fast
reliable and fast is not cheap.
do yourself a favor and read up on it. do not skimp on anything. remember, you are only as good as your weakest link. i am now waiting for my tranny to **** out.
if you are looking to go 5 psi and dont want to do any engine management, may i suggest a kit that has some means of fuel enrichment. either via a control box, like the greddy, or through an fm like the drag kit. if you dont think you will outgrow it, trust me you will, go with the greddy kit. i like the drag kit, i had it on my car for the betterpart of 4 years. i outgrew it finally. just stay away from ss auto ****. you will regret it if you buy their stuff.
10-17-2005, 02:22 PM
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Re: b16 cheap turbo, but safe? (boostedcivicsir)
yea, i know the 2 of three things rule.
i know about ss autochrome and all that.
im not a newb.
i should have worded myself better.
in short, whats better for me- a kit or piece together a kit. i know my ****, but yeah.
i know about ss autochrome and all that.
im not a newb.
i should have worded myself better.
in short, whats better for me- a kit or piece together a kit. i know my ****, but yeah.
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Re: b16 cheap turbo, but safe? (jbell)
i just sold a COMPLETE turbo kit for b series for $1000 shipped minus the intercooler. tell me why you can't have a cheap and fast car?
ohh...okay
ohh...okay
10-17-2005, 03:44 PM
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Re: b16 cheap turbo, but safe? (m R g S r)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just sold a COMPLETE turbo kit for b series for $1000 shipped minus the intercooler. tell me why you can't have a cheap and fast car?
ohh...okay</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm pretty sure this is the only guy that actually read the post before responding. There are plenty of alternatives to those $$$ manifolds. Look into a log manifold, get piping from JC whitney, JRC intercooler, etc. Check the classifieds out. If you take your time you can find some killer deals
Good luck. BTW: Check out Spoolin Performance they are the ****! Good luck man
As far as engine management goes...your close enough to Evans Tuning in PA...look into neptune for a good EM. http://www.evans-tuning.com
ohh...okay</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm pretty sure this is the only guy that actually read the post before responding. There are plenty of alternatives to those $$$ manifolds. Look into a log manifold, get piping from JC whitney, JRC intercooler, etc. Check the classifieds out. If you take your time you can find some killer deals
Good luck. BTW: Check out Spoolin Performance they are the ****! Good luck man As far as engine management goes...your close enough to Evans Tuning in PA...look into neptune for a good EM. http://www.evans-tuning.com
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Re: b16 cheap turbo, but safe? (jbell)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will evans be ok with an fmu/vafc or something along those lines?</TD></TR></TABLE>
those are 2 things that cant go together.
either do the fum
or the hack with the vafc.
neptune is the way to go if you are on a budget. i myself have had awesome luck with hondata. but if you are gonna stay with the boost low, an fmu is ok. not the greatest, but it is ok.
those are 2 things that cant go together.
either do the fum
or the hack with the vafc. neptune is the way to go if you are on a budget. i myself have had awesome luck with hondata. but if you are gonna stay with the boost low, an fmu is ok. not the greatest, but it is ok.
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Re: b16 cheap turbo, but safe? (jbell)
I'm about to order a log manifold, downpipe, dumptube combo from Spoolin Performance. The whole package costs less than most places charge for just a manifold! I hear nothing but great things about Spoolin Performance.....
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Re: b16 cheap turbo, but safe? (TopSecretEg6)
-TD04 14G turbo w/ 7lb wastegate and had a T3 flange welded on.
-T3 logstyle manifold
-uberdata/crome
-310cc DSM injectors
-Do your own intercooler/downpipe
-Wideband O2
Should be able to do all of that for or less than $800.
edit: Forgot -JRC 6" FMIC- $155 for the unpretty version
-T3 logstyle manifold
-uberdata/crome
-310cc DSM injectors
-Do your own intercooler/downpipe
-Wideband O2
Should be able to do all of that for or less than $800.
edit: Forgot -JRC 6" FMIC- $155 for the unpretty version
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Re: b16 cheap turbo, but safe? (nota-eg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jbell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will evans be ok with an fmu/vafc or something along those lines?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Stop right there buddy. How cheap are you planning on going? A pump gas NepTune tune is about 600 bucks...and that includes the cost of the software...Unless ou wanna grenade your motor...have it tuned properly...its THE MOST important part of a set-up...Goold luck
Stop right there buddy. How cheap are you planning on going? A pump gas NepTune tune is about 600 bucks...and that includes the cost of the software...Unless ou wanna grenade your motor...have it tuned properly...its THE MOST important part of a set-up...Goold luck
10-17-2005, 07:18 PM
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Re: b16 cheap turbo, but safe? (JDM_EH2)
i just turbo my b16 last week
i paid $1700 for everything
just take your time looking for parts
heres the list of stuff i got and paid for
Max rev manifold -
Max rev Downpipe ---
Charge pipes ----- 370
coupler ----
Tbolt clamps ---
Greddy Type S blow off valve -
Garrett T3/T04e 57trim .63a/r(new)-529
450cc injectors(new) - 199
p28 chipped with turbo basemap - 144
Johnnyracingcar 6in intercooler(new) - 155
oil line kit (new) - 109
Walbro fuel pump 255 (new) - 89
Tial 38mm wastegate (new) - 205
Boost guage - 25
motor oil- 30
you can get a complete used kit for $1300 or less if you get all used parts.
i paid $1700 for everything
just take your time looking for parts
heres the list of stuff i got and paid for
Max rev manifold -
Max rev Downpipe ---
Charge pipes ----- 370
coupler ----
Tbolt clamps ---
Greddy Type S blow off valve -
Garrett T3/T04e 57trim .63a/r(new)-529
450cc injectors(new) - 199
p28 chipped with turbo basemap - 144
Johnnyracingcar 6in intercooler(new) - 155
oil line kit (new) - 109
Walbro fuel pump 255 (new) - 89
Tial 38mm wastegate (new) - 205
Boost guage - 25
motor oil- 30
you can get a complete used kit for $1300 or less if you get all used parts.
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