hey all...i have a 93 prelude si, planning on lowering, need to see which one you guys reccomend. I am looking for reasonably cheap...but give me all of your ideas, and give me the links to the sites where I might find the kits at, thanks

 

You might not have to buy a camber kit.....

First lower the car - and then get it setup on an aligning machine.....maybe the camber,caster,and toe are adjustable back to factory specs.......

The main thing would be caster I think...........
Camber won't be an issue - depending on how low you plan on going.

Caster is affected because the frame angle is changing.......
If you lower the rear of the car a little more than the front - not meaning that it has to be lower than the front - but if you lower the front 1.2"...then lower the rear 1.4-5" - the caster would still be close to factory specs....

To sum things up: if you tilt the car up from the rear - caster goes negative - if you tilt the rear down, caster goes more positive.

Positive caster is good for a few reasons
Returnability and steering stability
....I think the caster is +2.67 degrees from factory - but that number might be way off....i'm trying to go off the top of my head.

 

Hope that helps.

 

basically..it's better to have the rear lower than the front? i liked it with a slightly higher..maybe 1 cm or less higher. let's my rear end swing out better.

 

NO NO NO.............don't put the rear lower than the front...............

I mean - factory, the rear is higher than the front - you can do that.......but if you lower the front 1.2"....then lower the rear 1.4-5"..........2 tenths of an inch isn't a lot at all.....the front will still be lower than the rear....just not as much.

 

If you put the rear lower than the front, then the car's caster will be too positive....then yo'll have to look into getting a steering dampner or something - because the returnatbility rate would be too high -

Returnability - you know how after turning a corner, the wheels go back straight right?...thats returnability

If its too high - they'll just snap right back and then a shimmy will occur....

Sorry man, i'm not good with words at all....maybe a mod can explain it.

 

hey actually that helps alot, thanks, if anyone else has any thoughts on that also i would be interested in hearing what you think, thanks again naptown

 

You don't need a camber kit. just get the car aligned after you lower it to zero out the toe, which is the most important thing to correct.

caster affects steering feel, but unless it's way out of spec it's not something you really need to worry about. the caster change from lowering the car shouldn't be enough to make it harder to drive.

 

Yeah i don't think it would be harder to drive, but i think that with a slightly more positive caster would be too much......

 

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i agree unless something is out of whack on your suspension like mine. also, caster makes a pretty big difference on crappy roads (like mine) i went from 2+ degrees to 1.25-1.75 and steering is much more twitchy and hard to control. if i were you, i would shimmy the front crossmember or cut the inner radius rod bushings to gain positive caster.


also, having the rear of the car is great on a FWD. first off, it makes the rear end rotate a little easier. secondly, it makes the whole bottom of the car act as a sort of "diffuser" and makes the car a little more aerodynamic.


kind of OT: hey monkey, u sure you want to zero out toe in the rear? there is a stock toe-in setting which is beneficial to preludes. you think the rear will wear to quick with that small toe-in?

 

hmmm...tough decisions...i mean im not trying to take any shortcuts here but not having to buy the kit would be super nice. Have any of you guys had any serious alignment problems after lowering your lude...?

 

Im in for some info also, im thinking about lowering my car as well.

 

hey i lowered my lude and put in the camber kits that went in place of the upper control arm mounts and allowed you to adjust the camber that way. the setup works well but i would stay away from it because after having them on for a little more than a year they started to get play in them and knocking like crazy in the rear. i removed the camber kit in the rear and was able to get in almost in spec(right was in but left was out of spec by -0.2). i have not removed the front camber kits but if i do i will let you know. and so you know my car was lowered with neuspeed sport springs so it isn't extremly low. the lower you go the more negative camber you will get

 

how is your kit in the front working out for ya? you seem to not have any complaints about the front...?

 

How low do you plan on dropping? If you're just dropping an inch or so - you shouldn't need anything. Usually, the lower you drop, the more your alignment gets outa wack.

Get a hunter dp600 and align it

 

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i have a small problem after my drop (neuspeed sports) i have 1.18 left rear camber but 2.36 right rear camber. i'm trying to find just one side for rear camber kit if can find it. don't know why it's out of whack but prolly these shitty roads bent something. so stuff like this is defintely possible.

 

thanks everyone, just one last question...if i was did end up needing to get one...which would you reccomned, and where would you reccomned getting it?

 

spc, ingall at the cheapest place you can find it.

 

the front hasn't started knocking yet but from the looks of it i think it will start doin it too

 

I need some advice also.. I have Neuspeed sport springs to drop my 5th gen lude.. would i need to put camber kit? i have obx camberkit sitting in my garage and im not sure if i want to put that.. help plz =]

 

i would just say lower it and get your camber checked and if its ok then you don't need the camber kit if its not ok put the camber kit on. if your camber is a little negative it won't kill you. its actually better for handling.

 

Hi guys,

Sorry to bring up old thread.
I just got a 97 prelude SH and it's lowered with eibach prokit. But it is seemed that the front is much lower than the rear. The previous owner told me because of the front has broken struts that make the front of the car lower than the rear. So I ordered a new set of KYB AGX. And today when I changed the oil my self, I found out that my front tires has inner camber wear. So, now I am thinking about buying front camber kit. I also found that the tires rubbed the fenders. Here're my question guys, and I hope you guys can help me out:

1. Is it true that if the struts were broken, then the car will be lower?
2.Do I need a camber kit for car that's lowerd w/ Eibach prokit?
3. Will alignment or camber kit helps to avoid the rubbing?

Thanks in advance for the help.