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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 01:15 AM
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i just install some tein s. tech spring on my GSR and the driver side is more drop than the passenger side. and wat dose cutting the bumperstops do to the shocks
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 02:09 AM
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its completely normal. everyones car is like that.

cutting bumpstops gives you back some of the lost shock travel. which is a good thing, but you still must have some bump stop left to protect your shocks from bottoming out internally.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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Yes it's normal. My civic does that when it's just sitting. When I'm driving the car I don't notice it being uneven.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Yeah, and when I sit on the passenger side, I feel "high." No way to fix it?
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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thanks for the help guys i was a little scare there that some thing was wrong
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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hey i dunno how low u are but just so you know, if your car hits the bumpstops at that height, then you can cut the bumpstops til they're like 1/4 inch thick.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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with stechs you probably don't need to cut the rear bumpstops. but for the front... maybe.. since it's like a 2.5" drop. did you get good shocks too or are you riding stock?
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaqman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey i dunno how low u are but just so you know, if your car hits the bumpstops at that height, then you can cut the bumpstops til they're like 1/4 inch thick.</TD></TR></TABLE>DOnt listen to this guy he is an IDIOT, having a 1/4" thick bump stop will do nothing.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its completely normal. everyones car is like that.

cutting bumpstops gives you back some of the lost shock travel. which is a good thing, but you still must have some bump stop left to protect your shocks from bottoming out internally.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Listen to this guy, If your indoubt check their post counts.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ohjolt2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">DOnt listen to this guy he is an IDIOT, having a 1/4" thick bump stop will do nothing.

Listen to this guy, If your indoubt check their post counts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

where the f*%k do you get off telling me wtf I know. Wtf do you do for a living, and how low is your car? Pretty sure I lower cars and lift trucks for a living! So please believe I know about shock compression and such. Also note that I said IF the car still hits on the bumpstop then cut it more!!! I didn't say Cut the bumpstop or die in a fiery car crash!

I don't think anyone here wants a car that is constantly hitting the bumpstop when theres shyt they can do to fix it! My 91 DA is tuckin tire and my bumpstops are cut to about 1/4 inch on tokigo illumina shocks and I got no problems that's me...and If I have problems later on with my shock...guess what (with tokigos warranty)I get new ones free!... Lastly before you look at post counts to measure knowledge....DONT! Im not calling you an idiot, just calling you gh3y for thinking that you can judge knowledge by how much some one has posted! BTW you have more posts than me and you got flamed by a gang of prople on your own thread for your "theory" being wrong and then you wanting to argue about it! Don't believe me? Remember this one https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1352315 point proven im out! You=

oh btw don't lemme forget this thread you posted too! https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1356447

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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dude your so right. Me and tyson know nothing and your god.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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dude, keep me out of this.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Tyson is like god squared

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Many shocks will bottom out internally if you cut the bumpstops to 1/4" thick. At 1/4" thick, there is little to nothing to prevent the weight from squishing this 'foam washer' and preventing internal bottoming out. At 1/4" thick, it is no longer a bumpstop, 'tis a 'foam washer'...
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ohjolt2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude your so right. Me and tyson know nothing and your god.</TD></TR></TABLE>

"Dude, you're so right. Tyson and I know nothing and you're God."

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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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im riding on stock shocks
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ohjolt2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude your so right. Me and tyson know nothing and your god.

</TD></TR></TABLE>Once again I din't say I was the king of susupension tuning....

but as far as u knowing nothing.... I just know you DONT KNOW ME! And my only point was that IF the car was hitting the bumpstops that there was a fix by trimming them more (Im basically repeating myself, but I guess It might get through to you this second time.) But Judging by your previous posts in your previous threads, you just wanna argue and be RIGHT or whatever makes you tick, soooooo bring it!

As far as tyson got I got no beefs wit him, because he seems to know how to state his opinion without insulting, and I can respect dat.

To be honest ohjolt2 i don't care if u or anyone else agrees with me or not...that was not and is not my point, but I will not stand by and be insulted by someone for something as petty as a suggestion. So... Ima just say you can end all by simply shutting up (which you can't do) or with a simple apology for the insult (which you probably wont do), Im guessing you are gonna keep arguing with me like you do on most of the threads you post on. Either way im game dog!
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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Dude to state it simply if your suspension is constantly on the bump stops you have a serious problem. Now you can to two things fix the problem OR take the ghetto approach and try to cover up the problem witch will lead to you destroying your shocks and ruining your ride. Now you seem to waht to take the ghetto approach. The problem is that you dont understand why that ghetto way is wrong.
It has been said "It is almost as bad to take the pole and not know why as it is not to qualify and not know why".
Your going to lose this race, trust me.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 05:43 AM
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Cutting the bumpstops is not nessessary although it may help if you're car is bottoming out all the time. I've dropped 3 of my cars and one of them being "slammed". I've never cut my bumpstops even tho both Tein and H&R give you measurements for cutting them.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ohjolt2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude to state it simply if your suspension is constantly on the bump stops you have a serious problem. Now you can to two things fix the problem OR take the ghetto approach and try to cover up the problem witch will lead to you destroying your shocks and ruining your ride. Now you seem to waht to take the ghetto approach. The problem is that you dont understand why that ghetto way is wrong.
It has been said "It is almost as bad to take the pole and not know why as it is not to qualify and not know why".
Your going to lose this race, trust me.</TD></TR></TABLE>


I Never said constantly riding on the bumpstops! I said HITTING the bumpstops...as in when the shock compresses. BIG difference. At this point ur just making up $hit for the sake of arguing. Go back and read!!! In my previous 3 or 4 posts I NEVER said riding on the bumpstops! But Im pretty sure you're going to come back with another argument so....lets hear it! BTW Like I stated before I could give a $hit if you agree with me or not! But I will not let you try to state ur petty little argument with false facts! If you don't like what I stated as my opinion guess what I DONT GIVE A $HIT homey!
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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guys come on not theres no point on arguing anymore lets let bygone be bygone
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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your an idiot man, every one can see it but you. If you hit your bump stops so often you need to trim them that far than your suspension is allready fucked, Your just not smart enought to know it. Honestly read up a little more and i wont have to explain so much child **** to you. I have a preload arguement to get to.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 07:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaqman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but as far as u knowing nothing.... I just know you DONT KNOW ME! And my only point was that IF the car was hitting the bumpstops that there was a fix by trimming them more (Im basically repeating myself, but I guess It might get through to you this second time.) </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you cut the bumpstops to that thin, you run the risk of damaging your shocks if you bottom them out. Period. This isnt opinion or conjecture. Leave 3/4"-1" of bumpstop.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaqman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I Never said constantly riding on the bumpstops! I said HITTING the bumpstops...as in when the shock compresses. BIG difference. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it is the same thing. If you are slamming into the bumpstops from bumps, or riding on them and hitting bumps, its no good and the car will handle like **** - and if the bumpstop is too thin, you can damage the shocks.

Get off your high horse and at least post something that resembles an intelligent statement.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ohjolt2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your an idiot man, every one can see it but you. If you hit your bump stops so often you need to trim them that far than your suspension is allready fucked, Your just not smart enought to know it. Honestly read up a little more and i wont have to explain so much child **** to you. I have a preload arguement to get to.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So you're saying when you lower a car that it is not necessary to trim the bumpstops? Or are you saying that the shock WILL DEFINITELY be damaged if I lower my car and trim the bumpstop to 1/4 inch? Cuz If that's your point i got a daily driver that is not leaking any shock fluid whatsoever. So as you can see this is no High horse....but If you want to argue with me about something that I drive EVERY day and take through laurel canyon, temescal canyon, to name a few from time to time.

Then I can go all day dog. Because according to you my shocks would have self destructed at this point with the bumpstops being cut to that extent, and I'm telling you that hasn't happened. Just accept it! Cuz i would not make any sense for me to have a shock with a lifetime warranty that I can get replaced on the spot for FREE, on my car when it is no good.

I am not new to the car game and know what a bad shock 1)Feels like and 2) Looks like (fluid on shock body and or coil over)! I am under the car fairly often, just replaced my trailing arm bushings, so I keep an eye on things.

Once again If you don't agree then you don't agree....but as long as it works for me then you can't tell me $hit. I understand there is a theoretical argument, that is being made here by vets like tyson among others but just have not experienced the failure ohjolt2 is trying to prove is immenent. So for me to accept something as true when I have put it to the test in reality is not an option.

And I don't care If no one backs me up or agree with me, or makes condecending remarks on my behalf. I genuinely don't give a $hit. Once again you=
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