my girlfriend really wants to trade our 93 hatch with ls for this coupe with a turbo. the car is a 97 and its in good condition, the only problem is that the car has 130,000 miles. it doesnt burn oil or misfire and it seems like it runs good. should i do this. and the motor is a d16y8 with the greddy turbo kit.

 

you sacrifice reliability when you go FI

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MugenHonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you sacrifice reliability when you go FI</TD></TR></TABLE>
If its a bone-stock Greddy kit reliabilty won't be an issue.

As for 130K on the clock, just do all the regular tests and you'll know how strong the motor is (leak down, compression etc).

 

Obviously the first thing you need to worry about is tuning. If it's tuned right and running good then the next major reliability issue seems to be head lifting. For some reason this is a problem with SOHC turbo setups. The stock head bolts stretch and it has the same effect as blowing a HG. If he's got ARP head studs on it, then that will be ok.

The SOHC turbo is probably faster and more fun than the LS swap.

 

there are so many different factors involved.

every motor is different.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vsm98civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there are so many different factors involved.

every motor is different.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's the most ambiguous, least useful post I've ever read in my life.

 

you're going to let your GF drive your turbo ninja ?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thehatchninja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

that's the most ambiguous, least useful post I've ever read in my life.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how do you figure? he's asking when HIS motor will blow up. he provides no compression numbers or pictures showing his internals. there's NO possible way any person on this board can give him an answer. how do we know the previous owner even changed the oil regularly?

i mean ****, we don't even know his fuel management. most people assume blue box or emanage.

general questions receive general answers.

 

Take it to a performance shop and have them do the compression checks, etc, and also have them look over the turbo kit to see that it was properly installed. And buy a brand new turbo or have it rebuilt, because you should have your turbo checked/rebuilt every 50k or so to prevent failure.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vsm98civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

how do you figure? he's asking when HIS motor will blow up. he provides no compression numbers or pictures showing his internals. there's NO possible way any person on this board can give him an answer. how do we know the previous owner even changed the oil regularly?

i mean ****, we don't even know his fuel management. most people assume blue box or emanage.

general questions receive general answers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I agree. One person's 130K motor will be ALOT different than someone elses. my 59K motor can blow before his 133K. So just asking that lame *** "when will my motor blow question", you will get useless answers until the thread starter provides more infomration like setup, tune, motor condition, does it burn oil, is compression good, has a leak test been performed, has it had regualarly scheduled maintenance and regualr oil changes. was it beat on its entire life, etc.

 

ok sorry about the lack of info. her it is . the kid does all the regular maitnence to the car. it has no management. stock internals, no oil leaks, and doesnt burn oil. im sorry about the lack of details. and the motor has 130k on it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nastyeghatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok sorry about the lack of info. her it is . the kid does all the regular maitnence to the car. it has no management. stock internals, no oil leaks, and doesnt burn oil. im sorry about the lack of details. and the motor has 130k on it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how is he running a turbo kit with no management? I personally wouldnt trade.

 

No management isn't good. I wouldnt touch it even with the hack, i'd only take it if it had emanage,hondata,or EMS.

 

what problems would i run into with this car with no management

 

Well, the A/F ratio wouldnt be correct, it could run rich out of boost and lean at full boost, that could foul plugs, give you detonation, etc. Basically without tuning, the thing is a ticking timebomb, it's putting a lot of unnecessary stress on the components that could be corrected by 300 dollars and about an hour on the dyno.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nastyeghatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what problems would i run into with this car with no management</TD></TR></TABLE>

No management? Or does it have Greddy fuel management on it?

 

the car did have some kind of management on it he said but he said there was a box that got fried.

 

Did it have the blue box?

It would not be good to have a turbo on the car and no fuel management. You'll run lean real easily.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nastyeghatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what problems would i run into with this car with no management</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you should read some more before jumping in to turbo. If you have to ask a question like this, you are not ready. No hating...just saying man. Fuel management is THE most important part of a turbo setup. As someone said, your A/F can/will be all out of wack.

 

y not boost the ls?

 

i totaly understand what u guys are saying. i have no problem or confusion about hondata, aem ems or the greddy eo1. as soon as i get this car i would take it to a shop and probaly have hondata installed and tuned. my main reason of this post was to ask how long does the average d series last on boost?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93ejay1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y not boost the ls?</TD></TR></TABLE>
my girlfriend does not like the car and its a big piece of crap. it runs real good and pulls strong, the body is in lowsy condition.

 

Dont buy someone else headache man....... no fuel management probably means he doesnt give a ****, beat on the car w/e. I think you will regret it

 

thanks guys