hatch101

i have a question for all of you turbo guys. i am going to be boosing a d16y8 soon and i need to know what i should use. what turbo would be the best for a daily driven application that would also like to run 13s. i know that i am not going to get into the 13s with just the turbo, but i am going to build the motor in the future as well. so what manifold/turbo combination would be the best?? i was originally thinking about using the greddy kit, but i heard they werent very good for high horsepower applications. oh and i have a 96 hatch if that matters. thanks in advance to anyone who helps.

Pengo

there are a few around here who have gotten into the 13s with the greddy kit on their sohcs. i think its very possible. and esp since you plan to build up ur motor it shouldnt be problem. the greddy is an affordable kit that fits great and is good for a daily driver. plus you won't have to build up in the beginning and you can add on whatever parts you want as you go along and have the money. for the cost i'd stick with the greddy kit. few guy have the apexi kit too but the cost prevented me from getting one instead of the greddy.

Drew Peacock

The greddy kit has hit 12s....... So yeah I do not know what your horsepower goals are the greddy kit will see 230whp easy... That is very low 13s high 12s with traction.... If you are only after 13s get the greddy kit with about 10psi standard internals with slicks low 13s high 12s are very possible. Other then that drag or revhard kits are known to make more power just make sure you spend the money on tuning..

Broken Gearbox

Get a Greddy Turbo Kit, Intercooler, BOV, Boost controller, Turbo Timer, Gauges

You should be hitting 13's no problem but remember tuning is the key...its up to you whether you want to buy a standalone or use the AFC-HACK but dont use that blue box or whatever also your car is very light compared to coupes so you have an advantage also when your finished go grab some light 15" rims and a carbon fiber hood

hatch101

thanks alot guys. i have been a reader of the site for a while trying to soak up as much info as possible, but there just isnt that much out there about the SOHC turbo. ok so what about tuning? i shouldnt use the blue box right? and the afc hack with the larger injectors would replace that?? thanks for your help guys.

Broken Gearbox

Well it depends on how much boost you wanna boost...i think the blue box is good for about 7-8 psi and higher than that your gonna want a better fuel mangement...also heres a link to a forum for just D-series

http://pub19.ezboard.com/fturbod16forumturbod16

and another one

http://pub143.ezboard.com/bhondadseries

and if you want do get one and want to install it by yourself check out

http://www.turbocivic.net


[Modified by dEF juNKie, 10:37 PM 12/28/2002]

hatch101

thanks alot for your help man.

hatch101

what kind of mods can i do that would help me boost more?? what is a block guard and where would i get one cause i know that they help the bottom end.

Daniel

rods, lower CR pistons, dyno tune, dyno tune, dyno tune, dyno tune! Tuning is essential if you missed that point.

oh, and a good type of EMS would help. i've heard great things about hondata and aem.


[Modified by Daniel, 7:13 AM 12/29/2002]

CzanSOHC

the difference between a DX hatch and a DX coupe is a merly 35lbs acording to my helms.

If you want an true bolot on kit, easy install, AESOME quality, w/ a turbo thats good for 12's w/ a quick spool...you want the Apexi kit!.... I'know it's kinda expensive but it si a ball bearing turbo effient up to 18psi...and you can also upgrade to a beefy VF22 turbo...APexi

Broken Gearbox

I meant the EX's because there the ones that came with the Y8s

hatch101

yeah i figured that would be another possibility. but damn i dont know if i have the $$ for that kit. it is bad *** though.

Broken Gearbox

Can you use the same manifold??

Hammett

I've never seen that number with a greddy kit.

rjardy

Yeah 230 on a D16Y8 is not that attainable, believe me. You will be happy if you see upper 100 or into the low 200's.

Rob

fsp31

>>230 on a D16Y8 is not that attainable<<

There are at least a couple of members on this forum who have gotten pretty close to that number on stock internals.

Extensive tuning helps for sure, but IMO education is the key for the person who started this thread. Read everything you can get your hands on for about a year before doing anything. Look at other FI'd Hondas and talk to their owners face to face (not just on the internet... it's amazing how full of crap many of these posters are). Use your less patient friends as guinea pigs... etc.

A lot of things change when you start considering positive manifold pressure and you need to be a student of boost or you will suffer some serious dissappointment, guaranteed. Sucks I know, but not as bad as having your car on blocks for a month, then blowing the motor the day after you get it done...

SoulSurfer

Come on Rob...you doubt the power of the SOHC?

It will be harder to get 230 on a Greddy kit. But with a built motor it should be cake.

BudaKai

Good flowing kit and big DP and exhaust will help nicely. Remember to loosen up those resrictions in the charge pipes and TB and you'll see 230 easier. Good luck.

I've noticed most people don't know that with larger tubing and TB you'll encounter less turbulance and heat. Seems to me the old-school turbo guys here aren't giving out any of the secrets. That means you can run more timing. You can always try alcohol injection too.

Broken Gearbox

If you want 230hp out of the greddy kit your probably better off going with a t3/t4 setup...but if you want to hit high 13s you can do it with the Greddy

rjardy

i run a t3/t4, ill let you know

Rob

hatch101

let me know!!

EZGSR

I saw an Ad for Edelbrock's new Emissions legal turbo kit for the D16Y8 coming soon. It supposedly even has a Tial blow off valve, Garrett ball bearing turbo and new Performer X manifold with 4 additional injectors. Might be worth looking at cause I hear its about 3k complete with ECU!!

hatch101

wow that sounds cool. what about the DRAG kit? i can get those pretty cheap, and i was wondering if it was ok or not? i do want reliablility cause this car is daily driven.

kHoA DoGG

Man, greddy kit seems the way to go. piece by peice build up amounts the same w/o the street legalness. but man, the idea of putting together your OWN KIT! maybe i'll save up to save for the kit.

Drew Peacock

I believe Vtec boost-less Civic used the greddy kit didn't he at 12psi he had something like 222whp all he would of had to do is run 1 more pound of boost theres your magic number.... So most of the posts above are crap I have seen similar numbers many times... Remember you don't really want to run more then 230 whp on a stock sohc its very risky, so unless building you engine or are prepared to blow it, your wasting money going for the big turbos Yo.