I was thinking about going turbo since NA isnt even an option but after doing quite a bit a research I dont think I would be able to afford it. I was looking at a cheaper alternative. My idea is to get hondata w/ larger fuel injectors a fuel rail, fuel pressure regulator, and a walbro fuel pump and then get it dyno tuned. I figured it was the best alternative since I cant built up my f22 and installing a turbo you have to make sure you have money on the side if anything goes wrong such as your engine detonating. What do you guys think? Think its worth going through the trouble?

 

Your stock fuel setup is fine for a stock F22. Even if you did all the boltons you could, your fuel setup will still handle it. The most you would need might be an adjustable regulator. Don't expect more than a few ponies on an F series.

Hondata, pump, regulator, injectors.. + labor.. that's big money for 10 whp.

The fact is, the F series motor isn't worth thousands of dollars in upgrades to still be slow.

If you indeed want a fast/faster Accord, you will need to save up for a DOHC motor or turbo/nitrous and shed alot of weight to be a contender. Just ask 2point6.

 

unless you have money to waste, doing ANYTHING NA on an F often will give less hp/$ than all other options. sure, with a head package, bolt ons, and more fuel itll make 30+ more whp, but for that cost you could be making over 200 to the wheels with boost.

justing throwing more fuel into the F isnt gonna help much. it's fuel maps are already pretty well designed. theres only so much more that can be done w/ a single cam, 2.2L running 8:1 compression.

 

you must have missed where he said he didnt have money for a turbo setup. if he doesnt have money for that, im fairly sure he doesnt have money for a swap. and secondly, saying the f22 is not worth the build is bullshit. no its never gonna make 600hp, maybe not even 500 but id be damn if you cant push 400whp relatively safely on a built block and do it cheaper than with the mighty dohc.

to answer the original question, your only alternative for decent power with little money is nitrous.

 

I cant belive how often this question comes up... i tried searching around and i really dont have the time, ima full time student and i work 30+hrs wk but im allong on the subject! i want power for as little as possible! doesent everyone though?

Just for ***** and gigles how much would it run relativly to get up to 400whp in a f24, and what would i need (turbo setup ofcource)?

Stock 01 Cord Coupe 5MT

 

All honda's already run overly rich from the factory. You don't need more fuel unless you're pushing more than 40 whp over stock.

 

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correct me if im wrong, but dont the new(maybe some old, dunno) run lean to improve fuel economy?

 

if you have already done suspension(and if im remembering correctly you have, sportlines and agxs right?) there really isn't much you can do to wield significant power increases outside of turbo and H22 without wasting your money. Nitrous is most certainly an option. I too came to the recent realization that i wouldn't be able to afford turbo, so im gonna finish everything else first and wait another year or so.

 

400whp can be achived on a f block,................... with a **** load of aftermarket parts

 

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No, with a Dart block

 

getting 400whp on a student budget on a f23 is gonna be hard. itll take a lot of time and doing your own work for everything to cut cost. i have no clue how much it would cost. im not interested in 400whp right now, as far as im concerned 300-350 is more than enough for me. that is my goal. that can be achieved easily with a basic bottom end build,...pistons, rods,.....ect. and of course some boost. no dart block needed, no resleeving.

 

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How much are you looking to spend and what type of pistons, rods, etc..... im just interested because im looking for a small build up and if ur willing to share your secrets it'll be greatly appreciated!

 

no secrets here. i dont know how much im gonna end up spending. im looking at around $2000 more doing all the labor myself. im already boosting on the stock block so i dont have to worry about all the turbo parts, fuel/engine management, and clutch (unless something breaks). im also a full time student and part time work so im just doing it little by little. just gonna save and buy parts to build the block one by one after i get my stock block boost setup running perfectly.

as far as parts. pistons will probably be race engineering stock compression forged pistons and rings.

rods: ultralight rods. good priced rods are hard to find. keep in mind h23s use the same rods when searching. http://www.accordinglydone.com...=9465

oem bearing and head gasket, arp head studs (h23s are the same).

everything you need to know and where i learned myself is now in one thread you can find here: http://www.accordinglydone.com...=6472

 

im in the same situation. turbo might be too expensive for my blood...especially in the long run. i go to school and have a 45 minute commute to work both ways. if i do anything, ill swap it. i only have 70k, nos wouldnt be a bad idea either. but i do LOVE booooost!!