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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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i think i am going to have to put in a new clutch into my prelude before racing this year. since i am taking it all out anyway, can i lighten my flywheel (and balance it with the clutch of course) and still legally run in sts? i couldn't find anything about it on line in the rules, so i am asking before i go and do it.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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nope
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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No you can't and your clutch has to be a standard Honda OEM style clutch or similar aftermarket brand and not in anyway an upgraded one. But I don't know how they could check that during tech??
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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well, if ur clutch peddal is excessively hard, that could be a hint. if when u rev ur engine and it revs and falls to idle quickly, theres a clue to the flywheel. at a local event, its not so much a big deal as if it were nat'ls. then they'd do what ever they do. i don't think they take ur car appart like runoffs, but...
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:22 PM
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Pulling the inspection plate only takes a few minutes......
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:52 PM
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just so i can make absolutely sure (not that i am doubting you) where does it say that in the rules? is it in the rule book? i haven't checked that out yet, but will soon. i just want to be totally sure. when i lightened my flywheel for the ep crx that i ran last year it was an incredible difference. i loved it. so i want to be 100% sure that i can NOT lighten that flywheel.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:09 PM
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lightweight flywheels are allowed in street prepared, not in STS. If you doubt the rules, then go buy a rulebook http://www.scca.org . And its fairly easy to tell by the way the car revs and launches if a 8lb flywheel has been installed. 5-6,000 rpms launches with no wheelspin is a dead giveaway.

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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:23 PM
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just so i can make absolutely sure (not that i am doubting you) where does it say that in the rules? is it in the rule book? i haven't checked that out yet, but will soon.
You'll learn soon enough......if it doesn't say you can....you can't. Sorry for the bad news.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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on a seprate case where would the aftermarket clutch and lightwheight flywheel put me. I know in my region it dosent matter, but would like to know what class I should truely be in.
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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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Smells like SP to me
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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 04:01 AM
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def. a streep prepared class. check the scca site to find out which one.
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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 04:14 AM
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Default Re: can i lighten flywheel for sts? (SOLOef)

i don't think they take ur car appart like runoffs, but...
At the Nationals, Robert Carpenter (CRX in ES) was protested 3 times for shocks and various other things. His car was still in pieces several months later.
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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 05:05 AM
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At the Nationals, Robert Carpenter (CRX in ES) was protested 3 times for shocks and various other things. His car was still in pieces several months later.
Yep, he had to replace his Koni shocks with off the shelf Tokico Illuminas between the first and second days. He was actually faster on the second day, too.

Are CRX's legal in SM, or do you need to have a "real" rear seat in SM like you do STS? If so, SM would be an option, too...
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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 05:16 AM
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At the Nationals, Robert Carpenter (CRX in ES) was protested 3 times for shocks and various other things. His car was still in pieces several months later.

Yep, he had to replace his Koni shocks with off the shelf Tokico Illuminas between the first and second days. He was actually faster on the second day, too.

Are CRX's legal in SM, or do you need to have a "real" rear seat in SM like you do STS? If so, SM would be an option, too...
You are thinking of the Protest he had at the Pro Finale...He also got protested for the engine at the National Championship....by guess who...Mark Chiles ...again. He was protested on several items including claims of being higher compression than allowed. The results were that Rob was actually DOWN on compression...kind of funny...Mark Chiles paid for Rob to be faster, because Mark had to put the money up to have the car reassembled. Now it will not be down on compression...hahahaha.

As for your other question...CRX's can un in the new SM2 not SM.
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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 05:20 AM
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Crosser, not sure what event Rob was protested for his shocks, but I thought is was for the nationals, and I had heard that protest was lodged by Rick Cone... Thanks for the clarification on the CRX in SM2.
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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 05:35 AM
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Rick Cone may have been part of it...but Mark Chiles originated both protests. The shock protest was out in Kansas at the Pro Finale that takes place the weekend before Nationals...It was crazy...I was sitting there watching him finish putting the Tokico shocks in the car while sitting in grid after calling a mechanical to give him a couple extra minutes. He finished and went out and crushed everyone in the class. It was beautiful...The engine teardown was after nationals. There was no second day at natinals this year becasue of the Sept 11 events...so that is where your stories were being confused. Robert continues to show how good the CRX's are, even in stock form.
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Old Feb 13, 2002 | 05:42 AM
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Default Re: can i lighten flywheel for sts? (Crosser)

Robert continues to show how good the CRX's are, even in stock form.
He sure does. Plus, he's an amazing driver. At the southeast divisional event in August, his times were faster than the cars in AS. Simply amazing...

BTW, thanks for sharing the the first-hand account.
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