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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Default Need advise on cams. Buddyclub specIII plus or Spoon

I have a friend selling both but i dont know which ones to choose? i have an itr motor and road racing is how i have fun.


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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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spoon cams are just ITR cams, of the 98+ variety, so if your looking for more power id go with the BC.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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I have run the Buddy Club Spec III+ In my B18 Engines. Good Mid range power & Torque. Not too Wild... We use the Buddy Club Spec IV Cams in our B20 and I would say they are identical to the SkunkII Stage III Cams.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Default Re: Need advise on cams. Buddyclub specIII plus or Spoon (slammed_93_hatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">spoon cams are just ITR cams, of the 98+ variety, so if your looking for more power id go with the BC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no they are not. they have more duration and higher lift. Here is a fully compiled list of alot of the after market cams out there...

http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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Default Re: Need advise on cams. Buddyclub specIII plus or Spoon (SlapSmak)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlapSmak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

no they are not. they have more duration and higher lift. Here is a fully compiled list of alot of the after market cams out there...

http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats great and all but groupN regulations ONLY ALLOW OEM PARTS. All of spoons engine parts are FOR groupN compotition.

Every enternal engine part spoon sells is an OEM part, that has been balnced and blue printed, o and there head gasket gives a boost in compression.

FYI groupN is a FIA race group that spoon races in, so all there parts must meet those rules and the rules are OEM with balance and blue printing

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Old May 3, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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Default Re: Need advise on cams. Buddyclub specIII plus or Spoon (ILoveMyVTec)

thx everybody the chart really helped.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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Default Re: Need advise on cams. Buddyclub specIII plus or Spoon (slammed_93_hatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats great and all but groupN regulations ONLY ALLOW OEM PARTS. All of spoons engine parts are FOR groupN compotition.

Every enternal engine part spoon sells is an OEM part, that has been balnced and blue printed, o and there head gasket gives a boost in compression.

FYI groupN is a FIA race group that spoon races in, so all there parts must meet those rules and the rules are OEM with balance and blue printing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well that's great and all too, but have you ever looked at a Group N rule book? Me neither. Maybe they allow modification of the OEM camshafts.

Either way check out Spoon's website. They list the specs of B16A, B16B and B18CR camshaft profiles on their and then their own cams. The Primary, Secondary, Mid and Maximum Lift are all greater then any of the OEM camshafts.

The BC Spec 3+ are an equivalent to like a Spec B or Stage 2. The Spoon's will fall somewhere between stock and a Stage 1/Spec A cam as they are a very mild upgrade.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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i would NOT go with the SPOON's.....


i probably would not go with BC's III either.....

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Old May 16, 2005 | 12:54 PM
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Old May 16, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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i recommend some toda B's
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Old May 16, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Need advise on cams. Buddyclub specIII plus or Spoon (ILoveMyVTec)

If you plan to just run OEM ITR valvetrain, get the BC3+. If you plan to build the head and up the compression, get some Blox B cams. The BC 3+ are great for low-mid range, but if you plan to stay in VTEC the whole time get some S2S2 or Blox B cams. There are a few threads in the all motor forum if you search.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1132047
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