Is there a way to make vtec work and everything that goes with while using obd0

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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 02:33 PM
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So i got a d16y8 in an obd0 car with obdo dizzy and pm6 ecu. Right now ive got the vtec
solenoid hooked up to a push botton switch that just turn the solenoid on and off when released. now ive read that in order for vtec to really work the vtec oil pressure needs to come on and the timing gets altered, advanced or retarded im not sure. Im wondering if theres a way i can get all three to work at the same time from a remote location eg. a switch in the car. Cause i dont want it to be on all the time only when im gonna race. I was thinkin a rpm switch for the solenoid and a stand alone ignition system for the timing but i dont know what i could use for the oil pressure, maybe it could tie into the rpm switch. I dont want the ignition system to be on all the time but to use the regular timing system for the car. Like i said i want it to all be hooked up to a flip switch in the dash. I dont know enough about the vtec system or ingiton to do this.
Can anyone please help me with this project. Also im gonna put a chip in the ecu you. if does this would it handle the boosted ignition problem for me ?
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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Default Re: Is there a way to make vtec work and everything that goes with while using obd0 (srv3fender)

dude what the hell are u asking that makes no sense all i was able to read was vtec button?????????????
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Is there a way to make vtec work and everything that goes with while using obd0 (srv3fender)

all u need to do is find a pr3 0r pwo ecu and knock sensor and wire it up and ull be fine...
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 03:05 PM
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Not gonna bother reading the post.

PS9 chipped (turboedit) ECU w/ vtec wired up.

And I'm out.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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I've got a ps9 for sale, chipped and all, including a datalog port soldered in.

100shipped.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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that sounds nice but im still obd0 with a pm6. all the rewiring and new dizzy and harnesses and running wires through the firewall would cost a shhh load
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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It'll cost maybe $1.00... Only wire your going to need to run in order to run the PS9 ecu and Vtec using turboedit NG48, is the Vtec solenoid wire to pin A8 (auto lockup solenoid) which the PS9 will now use to activate Vtec at your desired RPM. CRX drew's got one all ready to go. Not sure what you were looking at spending but you'll be happier with TE over an RPM or manual switch.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by srv3fender &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that sounds nice but im still obd0 with a pm6. all the rewiring and new dizzy and harnesses and running wires through the firewall would cost a shhh load</TD></TR></TABLE>

???? They are still talking about an OBD0 Ecu and what do you think your "pressure switch, stand alone timing crap, etc" are going to cost? And they still won't do the job properly.....

You asked for advice and they gave you some good advice.... Personally, I say you should just do the OBD0-OBD1 conversion and get a P28 and really do it right!
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 06:43 PM
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ok, well lets say i did the conversion to obd1

what all exactly will i need
and keep in mind that i dont have any harnesses hooked up to the vtec solenoid just 2 wires coming out of it that turn it on and off
and i believe its an obd2 engine being a y8
and its an obd0 dizzy
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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why would you need to convet to obd1... they are offering you an obd0 ecu that will allow vtec to come on and not have to use your spiffy little "vtec-button"!!! if you want to conver to obd1 you are looking at much more money involved

OBD1 ECU for VTEC $100.00
OBD0 to OBD1 Conversion Harness $50-75.00 upwards of 150.00 (what I got)
OBD1 Distributor $200.00 dizzy king or 100 used
4 wire o2 sensor $125.00
probably knock sensor $???
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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just buy that ecu offered here and you are good to go.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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Default Re: Is there a way to make vtec work and everything that goes with while using obd0 (srv3fender)

Three options:

Chipped ecu

OBD0 pr3 ecu

Convert to OBD1

My 2 cents is to convert to OBD1 and run a p28 ecu
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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If you are obd0 and running a pm6... the ps9 will be a direct plug in.... with you needing to run ONE more wire . Then using TE to chip it and boom.... vtec and very little hassle.

Currently all you are doing.. is switching the car over to the vtec(larger) cam lobe... and not giving it anymore fuel or changing timing.... its pointless to run an rpm switch without some fuel management adjusting. Vtec maps are run in a dual format, low cam fuel/high cam fuel.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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you guys are so far behind the times...

PM6 now has 1 wire VTEC support with no hardware modifications, although you'll have to give up your AC because it uses the AC' clutch switch circuit to activate VTEC....
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: (91civicDXdude)

And how do I convert my PM6 ECU to run Vtec? Is there someone that does it well? And will it account for the increased fuel need?
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys are so far behind the times...

PM6 now has 1 wire VTEC support with no hardware modifications, although you'll have to give up your AC because it uses the AC' clutch switch circuit to activate VTEC....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats cool... sounds like PGMFI.org to me. And you will have to make atleast one hardware modification, since the ECU will need to be chipped. That BTW is the answer to your fuel question too..... You can use the proper VTEC low/high cam fuel and ignition maps.....
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aragorn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thats cool... sounds like PGMFI.org to me. And you will have to make atleast one hardware modification, since the ECU will need to be chipped. That BTW is the answer to your fuel question too..... You can use the proper VTEC low/high cam fuel and ignition maps.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

But you'll have to splice the VTEC and non-VTEC maps together at the VTEC crossover point ... I don't think there's support for two separate sets of maps yet.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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DO IT RIGHT OR DO IT TWICE
Rywire.com
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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z-dyne one wire worked for me. as did "hooked on phonics".
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 10:21 PM
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ok ill take the ps9 crxdrew. Whats it come out of again?
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