Do I need aftermarket LCA's in order to install a Suspension Techniques sway bar?
I have two questions:
Do I need aftermarket LCA's in order to install a Suspension Techniques sway bar?
Does a 95 Del Sol S have a stock front sway bar?
I have done a search on this and got mixed answers. Some posts say the 95 Del Sol S does have a stock front sway bar and some posts say it does not!? If someone could clear this up for me that would be great. I know i could just look under the car but its lowered a good distance and im too lazy to try and crawl under there or jack it up.
Thanks for the replies in advance.
Do I need aftermarket LCA's in order to install a Suspension Techniques sway bar?
Does a 95 Del Sol S have a stock front sway bar?
I have done a search on this and got mixed answers. Some posts say the 95 Del Sol S does have a stock front sway bar and some posts say it does not!? If someone could clear this up for me that would be great. I know i could just look under the car but its lowered a good distance and im too lazy to try and crawl under there or jack it up.
Thanks for the replies in advance.
if you have the EX/SI LCA's then it CAN be done but it is recommended that you upgrade to either aftermarkets or the integra LCA's. for more info look up user SOHC4life 96 and check his interchangeable parts thread.
i am pretty sure all del sol's and civics came with stock front sway bars. i know the EX and SI civic and del sol SI do
i am pretty sure all del sol's and civics came with stock front sway bars. i know the EX and SI civic and del sol SI do
there are 2 ST bar types: one for car with oem rear sways and one for cars w/o oem rear sways.
if you get the one for cars with oem rear sways, you'll need to either 1) drill mounting holes in your stock LCAs, 2) get EX sedan or DC integra rear LCAs with holes on them already, or 3) buy aftermarket LCAs.
if you get on for car with out oem rear sways, the bar will come with mounting brackets so you won't need to swtich your rear lcas
if you get the one for cars with oem rear sways, you'll need to either 1) drill mounting holes in your stock LCAs, 2) get EX sedan or DC integra rear LCAs with holes on them already, or 3) buy aftermarket LCAs.
if you get on for car with out oem rear sways, the bar will come with mounting brackets so you won't need to swtich your rear lcas
Ok now im confused again. I thought the decision of what sway bar set to buy was based on whether or not you have an OEM front sway bar, not the rear!?
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oops. that was kinda confusing. if you get a front+rear kit, you can get one for a civic with or w/o front bars. you won't need to change your LCAs at all. if you get a rear bar for an integra (which will fit), you'll need to use lcas from a teg or similar.
http://www.belltechcorp.com/ag...4.htm
good article:
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/swaybars.html
oops. that was kinda confusing. if you get a front+rear kit, you can get one for a civic with or w/o front bars. you won't need to change your LCAs at all. if you get a rear bar for an integra (which will fit), you'll need to use lcas from a teg or similar.
http://www.belltechcorp.com/ag...4.htm
good article:
http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/swaybars.html
With the new wheels and tires, the extra grip caused a ton of body roll, so I decided to speed things up and install sway bars both up front and in the rear.
Due to the easy availability from an friend, I decided on the Suspension Techniques sway bar kits. Out of the box, these kits came with polyurethane bushings and functional installation instructions.
Rear Sway Bar
Installation of the rear sway bar was pretty easy, although some minor drilling was reqired for mounting the sway bar pivot points. The two pivot points mount on the rear lower cross member of the chassis. One extra hole had to be drilled so that the brackets could be bolted on, and this proved to be reasonably easy.
For the ease of future adjustment/reinstallation, I opted to thread the mounting bolts outwards from within the cross member. This also gives the suspension's lower arm more clearance at the inboard pivot point.
The kits also came with adapter bracket mounting points that connected to the lower end of the shock absorbers. We found the instructions to be off here in that the end of the shock must be turned 180 degrees so that the adapter bracket will be in the right position.
Finally the bar had to be manoeuvered into place as it actually snakes in and out of the suspension components. Then everything was bolted down and checked that everything was clear through the entire suspension travel. Still, I wonder what will happen if I try to get a lower strut bar in there.
Front Sway Bar
The front sway bar was a little more complicated than the rear. As my car did not have any sway bars, the suspension arms did not have the mounting holes. Hence the supplied brackets had to be used.
The first step was to get the adapter brackets mounted. This did not prove to be too difficult and everything bolted on correctly.
Next two subframe bolts had to be removed and the supplied pivot points were put in. The design seemed strange but it seemed very strong so we decided to take a wait and see attitude.
Bolting the main bar up, I found the clearance between the catalytic converter to the bar to be insufficient, so I went ahead and removed the heat shield, which gave it a little more clearance (about 1.5cm). The rest of the bar went in fine and again I double checked everything.
The Test Ride
Taking the car out for a test drive, I found the handling very much improved. Even with the front bar, the feel is very neutral, although the car seemed to understeer more on lefts than rights.
I took it back and double checked everything. Everything seemed fine. I turned my attention to the brakes and true enough, one of the pads on the right rear brake wasn't sitting properly (probably a minor oversight during the brake install). Fixed it and took it out for a spin.
With that minor glitch ironed out, the car handles beautifully. No more understeer sideways wheel-hopping. In fact it's easy to push the car into slight oversteer. Got to take it to the track soon to push it to its limits.
Due to the easy availability from an friend, I decided on the Suspension Techniques sway bar kits. Out of the box, these kits came with polyurethane bushings and functional installation instructions.
Rear Sway Bar
Installation of the rear sway bar was pretty easy, although some minor drilling was reqired for mounting the sway bar pivot points. The two pivot points mount on the rear lower cross member of the chassis. One extra hole had to be drilled so that the brackets could be bolted on, and this proved to be reasonably easy.
For the ease of future adjustment/reinstallation, I opted to thread the mounting bolts outwards from within the cross member. This also gives the suspension's lower arm more clearance at the inboard pivot point.
The kits also came with adapter bracket mounting points that connected to the lower end of the shock absorbers. We found the instructions to be off here in that the end of the shock must be turned 180 degrees so that the adapter bracket will be in the right position.
Finally the bar had to be manoeuvered into place as it actually snakes in and out of the suspension components. Then everything was bolted down and checked that everything was clear through the entire suspension travel. Still, I wonder what will happen if I try to get a lower strut bar in there.
Front Sway Bar
The front sway bar was a little more complicated than the rear. As my car did not have any sway bars, the suspension arms did not have the mounting holes. Hence the supplied brackets had to be used.
The first step was to get the adapter brackets mounted. This did not prove to be too difficult and everything bolted on correctly.
Next two subframe bolts had to be removed and the supplied pivot points were put in. The design seemed strange but it seemed very strong so we decided to take a wait and see attitude.
Bolting the main bar up, I found the clearance between the catalytic converter to the bar to be insufficient, so I went ahead and removed the heat shield, which gave it a little more clearance (about 1.5cm). The rest of the bar went in fine and again I double checked everything.
The Test Ride
Taking the car out for a test drive, I found the handling very much improved. Even with the front bar, the feel is very neutral, although the car seemed to understeer more on lefts than rights.
I took it back and double checked everything. Everything seemed fine. I turned my attention to the brakes and true enough, one of the pads on the right rear brake wasn't sitting properly (probably a minor oversight during the brake install). Fixed it and took it out for a spin.
With that minor glitch ironed out, the car handles beautifully. No more understeer sideways wheel-hopping. In fact it's easy to push the car into slight oversteer. Got to take it to the track soon to push it to its limits.
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