I have about 4,000 dollars to spend and I was talked out of a turbo kit by a friend's dad who has been a mechanic for along time. He made sense that if I didn't have extra money right away to build piece by piece my motor up over the time that I'm running turbo at 8psi on a stock motor with 120,000 it may not be worth the trouble. He suggested building it up with new parts then worrying about forced induction after its newly built motor and beefier.... sooo

4000$ what should i do?

I saw spoon had a stroker kit for the B16 motor I have an b16a2... this kit stroked the cc's to 1797cc basically your 1.8 for like 950$. This was piston & rings, crank, and rods. that sounds like a good start but i need some suggestions.... about possible things i need if i go down this lane... fuel, iginition, (axels possibly?), so mechanics and serious motor enthusiasts throw me some info and ideas. Thanks

 

no racing experience and im not a mechanic but ill tell you i blew my stock motor 35k miles with a greddy turbo kit at 7psi but its ok i built it then....which was my intention anyway

 

eek, my fears exactly lol... thanks for input tho, i want boost but i'd rather run it on a built motor with like 12-15psi some day

 

did you even read the rules when you registered? i sudjest you do that first then go here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=979961
after that youll be set. my 2 cents is its your money do what ever you want.

 

i run 15 psi all day now.....but then again mine blew because of poor fuel management...i dont see though with the right tune you should be able to boost a motor that many miles...I wouldnt though...it all about the tuning in my opinion...obviously if theres nothing wrong with the motor though....good luck

 

What kinda Fuel management did you have that was so poor?

 

no i didn't and i really care not reply because this is not a repost IMHO.... because
who has stated i only have 4 grand to work with in a post, that alone is kind of specific plus i did a couple searches to see if there was some info i could come up with... instead of being kinda of rude about the situtation why don't you help me search for a post that has been done before, for helping out a guy with a limited budget with a b16a motor and post the link in here... that be quite nice and that is as far as my 2 cents goes, ejayone
by the way man if you want some credit, atleast spell *suggest right... sudjest is a bit awful

*hah don't i feel dumb good spot Mf Rodez


Modified by HellProphet at 6:35 PM 2/9/2005

 

fantasy tunning owns... i have ohh.. 8k to work with, im gonna get this.. and maybe that.. i should get that. This is awesome.. i dunno.. i'll just get that,.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HellProphet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no i didn't and i really care not reply because this is not a repost IMHO.... because
who has stated i only have 4 grand to work with in a post, that alone is kind of specific plus i did a couple searches to see if there was some info i could come up with... instead of being kinda of rude about the situtation why don't you help me search for a post that has been done before, for helping out a guy with a limited budget with a b16a motor and post the link in here... that be quite nice and that is as far as my 2 cents goes, ejayone</TD></TR></TABLE>

well the thing is, we cant really just help you, you need to decide what you want to do with your money. If you wanna go turbo, then do it, but if you wanna build it up, then do that. As long as your engines compression tests okay, then a properly installed, properly managed and properly turned turbo will be fine on your engine. If your engine isnt in good shape, then you should build it... Thats pretty much the only thing people can tell you... We cant tell you what to do because were not you and we dont know what you want.

oh and wow... dude... dont tell him to spell suggest right if you cant even do it yourself.. thats not too cool

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HellProphet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I saw spoon had a stroker kit for the B16 motor I have an b16a2... this kit stroked the cc's to 1797cc basically your 1.8 for like 950$. This was piston & rings, crank, and rods. that sounds like a good start but i need some suggestions.... about possible things i need if i go down this lane... fuel, iginition, (axels possibly?), so mechanics and serious motor enthusiasts throw me some info and ideas. Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

That kit is not for your motor, it's for a CTR motor.

I think he was just warning you, that if you drop alot of money into the motor you have now, and you run into problems, you might not have the funds to cover the repairs to it.

 

well nevermind all of you sound like random street racers who want to be childish and can't through in some serious comments about how you would build a b16a2 with internals.... i think its quite obvious thats what i was looking for in my first post... was some ideas on stroker kits, and other things such as head work, port & polish, computers anything but maybe i'll get lucky and some one will post with some ideas rather than comments about how you are not me.... or fantasy tuning...

 

whoa dude, dont be an *******.

If you wanted to build your engine, you shoulve said "I wanna build my engine" not "What should I do"

If you wanna build your engine, maybe resleeve it with a stronger material. Pistons, rods, cams, cam gears... For engine management maybe hondata or uberdata if you plan on going turbo later...

 

ug.. you have no experince with cars.. you have to start at the bottom. No matter what daddys wallet or yours says. Get yourself the i/h/e, maybe get a cool colored camgear to show, other than that maybe start reading some car mags and reading around. Of course a stroker kit would be great, so would a turbo.. but this is just fantasy tunenr crap.. go do something.

to start, to build a b16a2, you should start from the oil pan up.. but again it depends on what you want to do.. turbo.. then eagle h beams, forged pistons and a decked head, arp headstuds, decked block, and you have a "turbo ready" engine...

you have no need what so ever for a stroker kit

if you have any real questions,.. shoot

 

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by the way man if you want some credit, atleast spell sugest right... sudjest is a bit awful</TD></TR></TABLE>

You mean "suggest?"

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HellProphet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well nevermind all of you sound like random street racers who want to be childish and can't through in some serious comments about how you would build a b16a2 with internals.... i think its quite obvious thats what i was looking for in my first post... was some ideas on stroker kits, and other things such as head work, port & polish, computers anything but maybe i'll get lucky and some one will post with some ideas rather than comments about how you are not me.... or fantasy tuning...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was offering some free information about the "Spoon" stroker kit you're looking at. It won't fit your motor. It's not for a B16a.

You need to make a decision on where you want to go with your motor before you start complaining about people not telling you what you want to hear.
With a turbo set up on a 120k miles, you should consider refreshing the block, and adding a set of rods, pistons, and rod bolts. At that point, you need to worry about fuel and management, and whether you want a custom set up, or an over the counter kit.
Or, if you want to go all motor, I'd suggest buying a new block, at least a 1.8, and there's several directions you can go from there. But you haven't filled us in on what you're using the car for, if it's a daily driver, whether you're going to be competitive, etc.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What kinda Fuel management did you have that was so poor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

of course the greddy blue box and a vafc.... lol the perfect combo.... lol

 

thanks for the info i do appreciate it seriously.... but i just didn't see the put in some people's post early on about fantasy tuning thats all...


can't post more than 5x a day must be for trial users... soo..

menkio, i do have an idea of what i want and that is a turbo, but i'd rather do it smart and not just throw one on a stock motor, i think a good build while trying to maintain somewhat of a low compression so that the turbo won't be an issue to put on later... i just thought i would find some help here, i don't know anything about any of yall just thought there might be some people with experince here, i have real life friends that are big into honda's but most of their idea's are considerable out of my budget, my friend has a 11 second hatch on nitro with a built B16A SiRII motor... any idea he gets off on starts going into big money because he can afford it doesn't mean i can lol... but thanks for any idea... i just lost to where to begin with 4000$ of parts to begin building a strong motor...

 

i just think you don't really know where/what you wanna do.. instead of asking around and such i would take it upon yourself to learn more. Anyone and everyone will say turbo, all motor, jdm, whatever... you gonna trust these idiots(no offense guys)


3 bar map sensor + vafc and a wing and pray...

a step up on the ghetto scale... shrug, custom p06/p28, uberdata, and a rom burner... take it in your own hands

 

Stroker kit.
I would get a Toda 1.8 kit with block resleeved. Maybe a B cam as well?
well thats just me.

 

MOST OF THE IDIOTS IN HERE HAVE NO CLUE.....don't listen....

b16b SPOON stroker kit is only for b16B engines.....

IT WILL NOT WORK IN your b16A engine!!!!!!!!

turbo kit at 10 psi on a TUNED ENGINE is FINE!!! make sure it is tuned!!!!!
before you buy one...do a leak down test and a compression test, this will give you forwarning if you should not go turbo....if your numbers are bad then don't do it....

you need to look to the future and see what you want to do....NA or FI....are you gonna road race, autox, drag or just daily drive it!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sinister6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stroker kit.
I would get a Toda 1.8 kit with block resleeved. Maybe a B cam as well?
well thats just me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">MOST OF THE IDIOTS IN HERE HAVE NO CLUE.....don't listen....

b16b SPOON stroker kit is only for b16B engines.....

IT WILL NOT WORK IN your b16A engine!!!!!!!!

turbo kit at 10 psi on a TUNED ENGINE is FINE!!! make sure it is tuned!!!!!
before you buy one...do a leak down test and a compression test, this will give you forwarning if you should not go turbo....if your numbers are bad then don't do it....

you need to look to the future and see what you want to do....NA or FI....are you gonna road race, autox, drag or just daily drive it!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>


weve already said that the stroker kit WONT work.... I also said that he should do the compression test and if the numbers are good, he can turbo it with a good tune and all, and if theyre bad, then he should build his engine... dont be saying we dont have a clue when we already suggested all the things you just said...

 

if you have a stock b16 then sleeve the block by rs machines or golden eagle about $700,buy your turbo kit around $2000 for a t3/t4, buy low compression pistons this should come out to be like around $3800 or so and you can hit around 395-450 to the wheels using hondata.