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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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im building my b18a1 all motor
non-vtec
can i still make a good amount of hp
im thinking stock sleeves 81.25 high cr maybe 12.5:1 do you think thats good
eagle h-beams arp bolts
arp main
block girdle
block gaurd
b18a1 crankshaft

i want to use the b18a1 head
non-vtec cams what kind?
and a valve train kit.

are b18a1's good for all motors high compression?
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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Skip the block guard.Eagles come with arp bolts stock.

Use the search feature,lots of info on this.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20vtechatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im building my b18a1 all motor
non-vtec
can i still make a good amount of hp
im thinking stock sleeves 81.25 high cr maybe 12.5:1 do you think thats good
eagle h-beams arp bolts
arp main
block girdle
block gaurd
b18a1 crankshaft

i want to use the b18a1 head
non-vtec cams what kind?
and a valve train kit.

are b18a1's good for all motors high compression?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Check my sig and my threads as well. Also there are some good threads if you search that will help you out.


Anyway use the B18a block. To get close to 12.5: compression get a set of CTR(PCT) Pistons. The pistons will have to machined to make them fit but they will work fine. This will put you between 12.2:1 and 12.4:1 CR. Next a set of ARP 8mm rod bolts and new bearings. You can use a block guard, it wouldnt hurt!

If you can find a B18b(P75) head instead of the B18a(PR4) you will start out with a lil bigger ports; but the B18a head will be fine if thats what you have. Get a PnP and a good valvejob. As for cams a lot of ppl use Crower 404's. With 12.5:1 Compression, 405's may be an option, but make sure to get the right ones or you maybe in trouble and have to modify the head to make them work!. Crane and Exospeed make some good cams too. Go with the vavletrain made for the cams you select.

As far as bolts go, this part is up to you and what you choose! Good Luck.


Check out this thread of mine at Nonvtec.com. It is a Nonvtec B-series cam guide with all the info you need on cams and their manufactures.

Nonvtec Cam Guideclick here
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 04:20 AM
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i cant get 12.5 anywhere??
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 04:21 AM
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and can i get ctr pistons in 81.25mm bore?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 05:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20vtechatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i cant get 12.5 anywhere??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your question was already answered. You can get right around 12.5 with CTR pistons in an LS block w/LS head.

CTR pistons do come in 81.25, I have them in my block.

Try searching a bit more.

BTW, why are you set on 12.5 CR? Are you going to be daily driving this car? How will it be tuned? What octane do you have available?

CTR piston have a ZERO piston to deck height in an LS block. I would seriously suggest claying your motor NO MATTER WHAT cam you go with.

No offense, but you have a lot of research to do. Save yourself some money in the long run and learn as much as you can before you attempt this build.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by arw321 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your question was already answered. You can get right around 12.5 with CTR pistons in an LS block w/LS head.

CTR pistons do come in 81.25, I have them in my block.

Try searching a bit more.

BTW, why are you set on 12.5 CR? Are you going to be daily driving this car? How will it be tuned? What octane do you have available?

CTR piston have a ZERO piston to deck height in an LS block. I would seriously suggest claying your motor NO MATTER WHAT cam you go with.

No offense, but you have a lot of research to do. Save yourself some money in the long run and learn as much as you can before you attempt this build.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 06:44 AM
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My current set-up is
B18b block... stock
P75 head milled and port n polished... ARP head studs
Crane stg 2 cams and Crane springs and ret. ....Skunk 2 cam gears
Skunk 2 intake mani, J's racing carbon fiber intake
DC JDM 4-1 to custom 2.5 w/ hi-flow cat and res to tanabe can
MSD cap coil , AEM pulleys
Uberdata chip n tune
-I made 145 whp and 120tq
So if you want more than that... bore bore bore
I on the other hand decided I'm gonna boost
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Digga4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My current set-up is
B18b block... stock
P75 head milled and port n polished... ARP head studs
Crane stg 2 cams and Crane springs and ret. ....Skunk 2 cam gears
Skunk 2 intake mani, J's racing carbon fiber intake
DC JDM 4-1 to custom 2.5 w/ hi-flow cat and res to tanabe can
MSD cap coil , AEM pulleys
Uberdata chip n tune
-I made 145 whp and 120tq
So if you want more than that... bore bore bore
I on the other hand decided I'm gonna boost </TD></TR></TABLE>

You do not need to bore! Check my sig and click on my "Dyno and Setup". I put down 170 WHP and 135 WTQ with Crower 404's and P30 Pistons!
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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so whats the most hp i will get out of on a b18a1 block non-vtec?
this is going to be a sunday car.
do i have to get civic type-r pistons for 12.5
can i get arais 12.5 to fit on eagle rods?
whats the best set-up for all motor none-vtec???
please help me out i have the block all set to go with 81.25.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybrid_vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You do not need to bore! Check my sig and click on my "Dyno and Setup". I put down 170 WHP and 135 WTQ with Crower 404's and P30 Pistons!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup, you can get a hell of a lot more than 145 whp out of a stock bore b18a/b.
Digga4, you would make much more power with bigger cams and more compression. How much was your head milled? You probably aren't even at 10:1 CR.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by arw321 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yup, you can get a hell of a lot more than 145 whp out of a stock bore b18a/b.
Digga4, you would make much more power with bigger cams and more compression. How much was your head milled? You probably aren't even at 10:1 CR.
</TD></TR></TABLE> You are right I am still in the 9's.. for a reason.. I was planning to throw in some p30's but after cost comparison I realized that for a little more $ I can boost my current set-up and get alot bigger numbers... I am very pleased about my currnet #'s with a stock block... This kid is talking big numbers, and for big numbers n/a he will need to bore.... otherwise you guys are making some nice numbers on your set-ups different strokes.. for different folks
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